BSR conversion for a UV - blowtorching wood/neck conversions

[7 Dying Trees]

I have spent quite a few months now pondering about what I wanted to get done as a project, and have come to the conclusion that there is only one thing for it: To make a BSR(Burnt Stained Red) Universe (Fire engine red with scorch marks...the 7 string from hell!).

Now to do this I know I need to blowtorch the wood, but was wondering what this would do to the UV neck that I have, and wether this would damage it...

Also what I'd like to know if anyone has any experience is how easy/difficult it is to do an AANJ conversion on an old style bolt on neck?

And finally (phew!) is there any way the headstock can be redone with the ibanez logo after blowtorching/staining, and is there anyone who can redo inlays to something else? (at the moment I am thinking of big red crosses that look like they've been painted on).

I basically want this to be a very moody guitar, and will get it rear routed once I find somewhere to build me a body (and maybe do the blowtorching etc, as I don't really trust myself, you know, beavis and butthead: FIRE!FIRE!FIRE! HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH he said torch...)

ANy advice and ideas would be cool, seeing as I want to sort of get this moving and planned over the next few weeks...

Cheers in advance!
James

[Two hands31]

Quote: from 7 Dying Trees on 12:24 pm on Aug. 13, 2001
FIRE!FIRE!FIRE! HUH HUH HUH HUH HUH he said torch...

HUH HUH HUH...You also said "wood". lol

[7 Dying Trees]

jeez...I must be more blonde than I thought... I totally missed that one!

LOL!

[ripl3y]

Well I'd pass on blow-torching the neck personally.
You can do it quite easily without damaging it, but I'd say it's not really necessary.

I can't recall who did it, but another guy on the forum has burnt his body so maybe you can ask advice of him.

AANJ conversions are not that difficult really, I suppose I've come near to doing one as my body and neck were flat prior to shaping it.
It'll involve handshaping the back of the pocket and heel of the neck but this is a simple enough task for a relatively competent woodworker.

The headstock can be re-done with the Ibanez logo...email me about that.

Inlay's are a whole other animal though.
You basically only have one shot at them, so I'd be more inclined to look for a simpler option if doing this by yourself, or if getting them done prefessionally then stick with your original idea.

gl

Steve

[7 Dying Trees]

Yeah, the neck blowtorching sounds a bit iffy, but I think I'd prefer the look of it if the rest, as the object is for it to be a fire engine red version of the BSB, and I kinda like the fgeel of the neck on that guitar, and would want the neck finished in matching stain. My concern is killing the fretboard in some way or other damage caused by heat. Does anyone know how ibanez do the finish on the BSB necks?

Fret inlays I am still not too sure about, that is still in the "multiple ideas" stage, whereas the rest is pretty much decided upon.

The AANJ conversion would be something I'd like to do, but will need to find someone to do it for me, as I am a bit useless at woodwork...

And then I need a body made by someone that'll fit the neck. I would go back to the last place I had a body made, but they did "forget" to do some things and did screw up the finish and made some mistakes, so I am not sure I really trust them to do something like this anymore. I was going to try to get one from custom guitar wares, but they haven't been taking any orders for quite a while now, so I don't really know who can do one. I know I am going to have to ship the modified neck to whoever does it, so... (Possibly for them to mod as well...)

I'll email you about putting the ibanez logo + universe one on a bit later...

Would be interested to hear from anyone else who's done this blowtorch malarky as well...

James

[ChrisReedSmith]

Please enlighten on repainting the Ibanez logo. It would be much appreciated.

[bluenote]

logos are easy...take a 1:1 photocopy to a sign shop.....tell them you want either a paint mask or a logo made......paint masks are just vinyl that is cut with a special machine that you stick to the object and paint.....the logo is basically the same thing but just stuck on......go with the paint mask.....its better

[7 Dying Trees]

So all you need to do is get a good copy of the headstock? Or does nayone have a spare copy or something comparable (logo/decal etc) lying around? The vinyl thing sounds like the best idea.

[ChrisReedSmith]

Is this paint mask like, a square paper with the Ibanez logo cut OUT of it, or is it the actual logo cut out? If Im right about the paint mask then thats what I was planning on trying. But I have no clue how to get a 1:1 copy of the Ibanez logo. Maybe if I took all the tuners off the headstock I could scan it or something. you know trying to lay it as flat as possible.

edit- Actually wouldn't you need 2 masks? One for the white checkmark and one for the silver "Ibanez"?

(Edited by MADWELL at 7:20 am on Sep. 13, 2001)

[GhesQi J]

I have a copy of the Ibanez logo. (Black logo, white background, scale 1:1). I can mail it to you if you want.
The resolution of the copy could be better, although it's not that bad.

I'm also thinking of ways to put a logo on the headstock for my project.
At the moment I'm thinking of paint, but want something more "professional".
Any ideas are welcome.

Joten

[ericbrowning]

Sounds great man, make sure you upload a pic as it progresses. Good luck!

[7 Dying Trees]

Don't worry! I will be! Sort of trying to sort out the cash to get going at the moment. J=Have the neck, so am still wondering if anyone has done an AANJ conversion on an old style bolt on?

[Project Guitar]

Quote: from 7 Dying Trees on 12:24 pm on Aug. 13, 2001

I'd like to know if anyone has any experience is how easy/difficult it is to do an AANJ conversion on an old style bolt on neck?

ANy advice and ideas would be cool, seeing as I want to sort of get this moving and planned over the next few weeks...

I have done this mod to a 6 string neck. What you need to do is make a template out of the neck pocket cavity first.

Place the neck into the cavity and make sure the fret board ends up right up against the neck humbucker trim ring. Make a mark following the contour of the body along the old heel of the neck while it is in place. Then take the template and it will show you the block of wood you will need to add to the end of the heel.

After you have added the extra block of wood to the bottom of the extention of the fret board and confirmed a good and tight fit, you can then shave down the extention of the original heel which is sticking out away from the body. Then simply fill the existing bolt holes and drill the new ones.

Tip's and tricks about burning can be found Here and Inlay work Here!

[7 Dying Trees]

Argh! Just as I think I am getting a bit closer, I get told that the AANJ conversion on a 7string neck isn't possible, as the string tension will be too much. So now I think it is time to start looking into a custom neck, and who can build me one (or is willing to, preferably in england, as I don't want to get clobbered by taxes/fees too much), but the unfortunate thing is that I would like an ibanez headstock on it (which I don't think commercial companies will do), and pretty much the feel of the UV neck I have. I will part trade the neck for any work done, but as this opens up a whole new world of possibilities qua materials for the fretboard, something I haven't really thought about...Any ideas from people? A nice wood would be cool, preferably similar in feel to rosewood...

So I guess I need some help again and advice... On the upside, at least I have now got the trem (even if the locking pads don't fit) and have found out a lot about what I need to be doing, and where how what...

And another thing, does anyone know how to turn a translucent pickguard into one that is translucent red? I asked jeannie's pickguards and they said it was either translucent pink or clear. And pink...uhhh...welll...I guess you get the point...

Any help appreciated!

James

[Project Guitar]

Ask Ripl3y (Steve) he's local for ya...... And we all know he can build a neck =o)

(Edited by becalvert at 7:17 pm on Nov. 20, 2001)