Choice of paint for swirl?

neoison · #1 08-31-2008, 02:35 AM

Hello, I was wondering if anyone would like to share the type of paint they use for swirling? Maybe where you buy it from also? Any tips for using the paint because of thinkness?

I heard of Testers, Plasti-kote and Rustloeum has an oil based enamal at Lowes.

Thanyou in advance..

alecmm61 · #2 08-31-2008, 03:17 AM

im pretty sure any oil based paint would work, you can get them at an art supplies store or something like that.

do a search im pretty sure its been discussed

musicdr · #3 08-31-2008, 03:24 AM

Be prepared to experiment for awhile.It took me months to get anything somewhat okay and years to get something really acceptable.But I'm pretty picky.Alot of fun when you finally get it down.

neoison · #4 08-31-2008, 04:51 PM

Cool I have a Jem that I bought a couple months ago. Its white and Im about to swirl paint it. I just got back from the art store and I have 4 tubes of oil paint. So now what do I do? Should I get a bucket of water and just squeeze all the paint in and then dip my guitar in? I dont know how to take it apart but water shouldnt hurt it. Not if I do it real fast.

Wish me luck guys...

OK, HAHA, I was just messing with you.... What kind of paints do you MusicDr? Maybe you could send me a message. THX

neoison · #5 08-31-2008, 11:47 PM

Why dont you guys just tell me what you use instead of beating around the bush. This is a forum not a Magic show. Your sopost to help people.

Lordiesel · #6 08-31-2008, 11:54 PM

I used artist tube oil paint for mine. With grade 2 thinner. Borax here and there.

http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f21/my...mpt-75371.html

neoison · #7 09-01-2008, 12:43 AM

You have to be kidding me. I know that cant be right. You need a hard finish and artist tube paint cant do that. I have thought about using Rustoleum Oil based emanel from Lowes. White comes in flat, satin and gloss. I asked the guy at lowes and he said NORMALY Lowes wont add color to Rustoleum paint. But he said they could. That should work?

Has anyone tried it before?

Lordiesel · #8 09-01-2008, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by neoison

You have to be kidding me. I know that cant be right. You need a hard finish and artist tube paint cant do that. I have thought about using Rustoleum Oil based emanel from Lowes. White comes in flat, satin and gloss. I asked the guy at lowes and he said NORMALY Lowes wont add color to Rustoleum paint. But he said they could. That should work?

Has anyone tried it before?

Artist oil paint is what I used. From a tube.

neoison · #9 09-01-2008, 01:17 AM

I keep hearing people say you need flat oil enamel. Rustoleum at lowes is that. Also I have noticed Swirl Sellers list there colors. They use Generic names and list only a few. Now if I was a seller? I would list all the colors available unless I was having the paint mixed specific. Then I would state what I have.

So my conclusion is people use mixed colors in larger quanities. Yes I can see people mixing artist oils just to experiment. But not for putting on a guitar body.

neoison · #10 09-01-2008, 01:25 AM

Plus Rustomleum is UV protected. So the color overtime wont fade. Does anyone know what Clears can be put on a oil based paint? Something that wont lift the color? Thankyou

Lordiesel · #11 09-01-2008, 01:37 AM

Different swirlers use different paints. Some use auto.... some use enamel... some use artist oil.... and some use acrylic. All of which can work. Not much paint is needed for a guitar so its not impossible to use artist tube oil paint. And..... I did.

As far as other types go... enamel I found got very sticky and dried very quickly on the water. Acrylic requires a lengthy and tiresome process of thickening the water. Am yet to try Auto paints. Also FYI the original Ibanez swirls by ATD do fade.

Tubarão Guitars · #12 09-01-2008, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by neoison

So now what do I do? Should I get a bucket of water and just squeeze all the paint in and then dip my guitar in?

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoison

Why dont you guys just tell me what you use instead of beating around the bush. This is a forum not a Magic show. Your sopost to help people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoison

You have to be kidding me. I know that cant be right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoison

I keep hearing people say you need flat oil enamel. Rustoleum at lowes is that. Also I have noticed Swirl Sellers list there colors. They use Generic names and list only a few. Now if I was a seller?

Quote:

Originally Posted by neoison

Does anyone know what Clears can be put on a oil based paint? Something that wont lift the color? Thankyou

too much free agression and rage.
all those swirl paint type threads should be prohibited by federal law.
sorry.

Tubarão Guitars · #13 09-01-2008, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by musicdr

Be prepared to experiment for awhile.It took me months to get anything somewhat okay and years to get something really acceptable.But I'm pretty picky.Alot of fun when you finally get it down.

best advice ever.
IF someone wants to swirl your guitar, using the 'right paint' don't guarantee it's gonna be a good or acceptable swirl.
do not exist the right paint, just the right swirler.
sorry.

neoison · #14 09-01-2008, 10:42 AM

Then if its the magic of the swirler? Why is paint such a hush, hush topic. I know it may have took you guys time and money but. Thats the purpose of this forum. There should be stickys at the top explaining this process to the fullest. Every swirl guy on THE BAY... Isnt that good. Even Perle/Nate isnt that good. I have seen his work and only 3-4 of all the ones on his website I approve of. So thats talent or he just got lucky. And I say its ladder of the two.

So since everyone says hes a so called swirl expert? I feel that anyone can swirl. Its a matter of the paint and technique. So thats why you all dont want to talk about paint. Its not rocket science!