Edge III Mystery... Solved?

eclecticmage · #1 10-17-2006, 07:26 AM

Hey all,
For those who are interested, it is possible to fit an Edge trem into and Edge III routing without any major modifications. Matter of fact I put some locking studs into my Edge III body and then tested with an Edge trem I have for another project guitar. It fit like a glove with full range of motion. The only mod I did was to widen the Anchor holes slightly to accommodate the new locking anchors. Over all, the worst part was resetting up the guitar. So I suppose if an Edge will fit in all its honking glory, it is theoretically possible for an Edge Pro to fit there too. I would welcome comments. Thanks for reading.

King Knall · #2 10-17-2006, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by eclecticmage

Hey all,
For those who are interested, it is possible to fit an Edge trem into and Edge III routing without any major modifications. Matter of fact I put some locking studs into my Edge III body and then tested with an Edge trem I have for another project guitar. It fit like a glove with full range of motion. The only mod I did was to widen the Anchor holes slightly to accommodate the new locking anchors. Over all, the worst part was resetting up the guitar. So I suppose if an Edge will fit in all its honking glory, it is theoretically possible for an Edge Pro to fit there too. I would welcome comments. Thanks for reading.

I don't think the EP is able to fit in the EIII's cavity because the design is different. The EIII was designed according to the specs of the Edge, so I think that's why the Edge is able to fit in the EIII's cavity.

madpickin03 · #3 10-20-2006, 07:49 PM

whoa, pics plz

btw the EdgePro has totally different routing from an Edge

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #4 10-21-2006, 01:44 AM

Hmm, somethings not right. I just read this thread, got up, grabbed an RG 320FM that has an edge III, grabbed an edge and it WOULD NOT FIT. Width wise it was fine, but the cavity isn't long enough. The allen head bolts on the back of the trem rest on the body all the way to 1/4" further back than the 320 is routed. I grabbed another edge same thing. Grabbed a lo pro same thing, grabbed an edge pro and it won't even go in. So, I have to beg to differ, an edge will not fit into an edge III routing without the allen head bolts resting on the back of the body, which in turn doesn't allow the edge to go all the way down in the cavity. Either one of two things is wrong, your either A) Not using an edge but something else, or B) Your body is not a routed for an edge III, which is probably the case. I grabbed two other 320's that have edge III's and tried them and the edge wouldn't fit in any of them, the trem cavity needs to be lengthened by about 1/4" to fit and not hit or rub in the back. I'll post pics in about 5 mins

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #5 10-21-2006, 02:06 AM

Heres the pics, Edge Trem in an Edge III route will not work. This is a brand new RG 320FM.....also, the egde trem is pushed all the way forward to give as much clearance as possible, it actually would sit about a 1/16" further back if the studs were in, which woul dmake it over hang even more, as well as rub in the corners to the point that the tremelo wouldn't be able to move. I also test fitted this on two other EDGE III routes, and they were all exactly the same, the routes were 1/4" in length to short for an edge trem.

crevis · #6 10-21-2006, 02:11 AM

Did you mean edge 2??

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #7 10-21-2006, 02:34 AM

Who? Not me, I meant edge III. The original poster said an edge trem would fit in an edge III route. I said not it wouldn't, b/c as you see above I have an RG 320 FM which is routed from the factory for an edge III and an edge will not work, which is what is in it in the pictures. All I was saying is he must have some other route other than an edge III, and edge III route is not long enough to accomodate an edge trem.

crevis · #8 10-21-2006, 02:38 AM

Yeah i said that to the dude that started the thread. I never noticed the E3 was that small.

The models get larger as they go up so that you cant retrofit E3 with edge or edge with lo pro etc

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #9 10-21-2006, 03:15 AM

Yea, the edge III is very small

eclecticmage · #10 10-21-2006, 05:53 AM

Edge III Installed

Edge

Edge Floating Top and Back

Edge Resting in body

Now please tell me I am mistaken about the edge III being installed in this guitar. I would love to know that it has something other than that installed. Otherwise it looks like it fits rather nicely in there with room to play.
Thanks.

eclecticmage · #11 10-21-2006, 05:57 AM

I am not trying to sound like an @$$ but if I honestly do not have and EIII then what is it. I got this guitar from factory. The only thing I changed was the locking studs mod and a tremol-no. Otherwise I havent changed the route.

Rich · #12 10-21-2006, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by eclecticmage

Now please tell me I am mistaken about the edge III being installed in this guitar. I would love to know that it has something other than that installed. Otherwise it looks like it fits rather nicely in there with room to play.
Thanks.

You have every saddle on the Edge pushed full forward so the intonation is crap. Making the bridge fit [and how did you get the tongues on either side of the knives to fit in without deepening the body corners] and having it properly intonated evidently wasn't an issue with you.

eclecticmage · #13 10-21-2006, 06:14 AM

The tounges just fit in the route though I do see where a problem from that would be. As for the intonation, I had not considered that as this edge still has yet to make it into an actual guitar for use. Now with that brought to light, I could see how that would not fit and how it is possible for me to be wrong. I admit it. Sorry guys, my bad.

crevis · #14 10-21-2006, 06:35 AM

That is obviously a 350 so maybe some 350s are made from excess trs bodys when they switched trem lineups, i know for sure that an edge will fit a trs route, maybe not trs 2 i dont know. Even the Edge 3 looks far too small for that route. and yeah if the intonation ends up like mine, the g bolt will hit for sure.

eclecticmage · #15 10-21-2006, 06:40 AM

You know come to think of it looking back at SCS' pics. It looks like the saddles are riding kind of far forward too. At least comparatively they look like they land around the same area in relationship to the studs as my edge does. Thanks all for commenting, even though some of them sounded more smug and condescending than others.