EDGE III Review

[kevlahnota]

also posted on Ibanez Forums..

video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gfGsiF5x64

At first i think it is no good, many say it sucks. My point is it works with proper setup. Correct tension of strings and springs and correct tremolo angle is the key. Also I put a petroleum jelly to the trem posts that serves as a lubricant. i don't know how it will last. But it's good for the price you paid IMO.

You can never compare it to OFR, Original Edge, Lo-pro Edge, Gotoh or Schaller because that's high end gear. Edge III is suitable for budget musicians. And if they take good care of it, i think it will last.

Cheers

[GuitarBizarre]

Not to be somewhat antagonistic here, but this is the second thread you've made dedicated solely to persuading people that equipment with a bad reputation isn't as bad as its made out, despite the fact that much of this equipment gained this reputation on the basis of it being true.

It strikes me somewhat like you're trying to justify your own purchases by posting these videosm as opposed to actually offering explanations for how good these products really are. The sound quality on your videos isn't exactly Hi-Q either, its quite tinny in some aspects, so its hardly the most objective view of 'Tone' in a world where people claim to tell the differences between two brands of string.

Also, unless my ears or the youtube quality are decieving me, your guitar was actually slightly out of tune by the time you'd finished with your comparitively light tremolo abuse on the clean tone there. Maybe my ear is super sensitive to it or something, but thats hardly helping your point.

Edit: Actually no, you were out of tune from the start, just less. In particular, either your G or B string went noticably further out. Try using a proper chromatic tuner instead of tuning by ear. Its much more accurate and will help develop a more reliable sense of pitch if you're used to being absolutely cent perfect in tune.

[GuitarBizarre]

Also:

Originally Posted by kevlahnota

i'd like them to upgrade the hardwares like more robust tremolo systems, better electronics and durable chrome/metal finish on metal pickup rings and knobs.

Why claim the Edge III is a good tremolo system after you've been saying that in the other thread?

[kevlahnota]

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

Also:



Why claim the Edge III is a good tremolo system after you've been saying that in the other thread?

Last time i have used an ILT trem like their entry level Gio's and those TRS trem of my cousins Old Rg's.

[Racerx2k]

I still laugh at how many people still spout off that Edge IIIs suck. I've had one for several years now, and have not had one problem, and it's not like I baby it, or constantly keep up on maintenance on it, either. Yeah, I'd be happier if it had a bit more mass, like the original Edge, but, still, it's NOT a bad trem.

[kevlahnota]

Originally Posted by Racerx2k

I still laugh at how many people still spout off that Edge IIIs suck. I've had one for several years now, and have not had one problem, and it's not like I baby it, or constantly keep up on maintenance on it, either. Yeah, I'd be happier if it had a bit more mass, like the original Edge, but, still, it's NOT a bad trem.

about the mass you're talking about, is there a replacement block for the Edge III? I mean like a brass block so it adds more mass to help on sustain. Correct me if i'm wrong, as far as i know is that even the guitar is a bolt-on neck it will have a good sustain if it has a good neck joint contact with the body. Thanks.

[GuitarBizarre]

Originally Posted by Racerx2k

I still laugh at how many people still spout off that Edge IIIs suck. I've had one for several years now, and have not had one problem, and it's not like I baby it, or constantly keep up on maintenance on it, either. Yeah, I'd be happier if it had a bit more mass, like the original Edge, but, still, it's NOT a bad trem.

On the other hand, the OP posted a vid of some reasonably mild abuse and went straight out of tune, so I think the case is which scenario is more common. Given everything I've read, I'm 99% sure its the 'out of tune' scenario.

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[kevlahnota]

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

On the other hand, the OP posted a vid of some reasonably mild abuse and went straight out of tune, so I think the case is which scenario is more common. Given everything I've read, I'm 99% sure its the 'out of tune' scenario.

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Ok Edge III is not reliable for you and i'm not in tune but can you take a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUNSOK0NVXs

i cut the first part and the last part of the vid and record the sound with sonar. i used a screen capture device.

[GuitarBizarre]

I'm not really sure what thats meant to show me. It still sounds out to me. I just recorded a video response for you though, of me abusing my ZR and returning to perfect tune.

[GuitarBizarre]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LGyg2VNytw

There ya go.

[kevlahnota]

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LGyg2VNytw

There ya go.

i'll fit a locking trem bar then i'll lift my guitar soon. I know Edge III's inferiority in terms of materials it is made of. My point is that it works good with proper setup. I mean it's not the greatest tremolo out there. But it serves its purpose. The video with the graph i uploaded is that it doesn't change my tune after pulling and diving the tremolo. You may have superior ears than me but as you can hear it has the same pitch.

[chaos731]

Paging Mr. Dead-horse. Paging Mr. Dead-horse. There's a beating for you waiting at the front desk.



One of my axes has an Edge III on it, and while it's not the best trem I've used, it's certainly far from the worst. I've had no tuning stability problems, nor have I experienced any particular lack of sustain. True, it's not as beefy as the original Edge on one of my other guitars, but I dish pretty vivid abuse on my trems, and I've had no problems with the Edge III. Not perfect, but like most "lower end" trems, it becomes that much more important to have the guitar properly intonated and in tune; otherwise, any inherent tuning issues will be exacerbated somewhat by heavy trem use.

[nuno]

as far as i know, the only big problem with the Edge-III is the arm making "play" after just a few strokes, no matter how much you tighten the arm insert screws. too bad, as the trem's not that bad per sè.

[Racerx2k]

I've only had the bar play loosen a bit, once, when I first got it. tightened said screw, and all has been well, since then. Actually, I had to loosen it a little, cause I tightened it a bit TOO much.