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Old 04-15-2004, 05:42 PM
TheSlowChemical  is offline
 
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Edge Pro II not staying in tune


I'm now at the end of my wits - my Edge Pro II just refuses to stay in tune. I've made sure the bridge was setup properly (had it done by an Ibanez dealer near me who is usually INCREDIBLE &amp; frankly the only people I'd trust enar my Ibanez collection!!!), but the top 3 strings REFUSE to stay in tune after divebombing....

I can't detect any slippage from the around the locking nut - (used the old marker on strings routine to find slippage near the nut), doesn't appear to be moving from around there......

The posts seem fine, as do the knife edges - the guitar is practically brand new &amp;hasn't been played hard &amp; I don't abuse the heck outta my trem neither, I like to do basic divebombs, pull-ups, flutters &amp; subtle pitch raises - the most abusive I'd get is like the ending of 'Hill Of The Skull' by Satch......

Anyone got any suggestions (apart from changing from the Edge Pro II - not viable financially @ the moment - just bought premo tickets to the F-1 Monaco Grand Prix next month!!!) or ways I can remedy this, cos this is driving me nuttttttsss!!!!

Cheers in advance!!!!
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Old 04-16-2004, 12:30 AM
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A scary possiblity, but one you may want to consider is that the strings are slipping out of the lock nut.

Try using the ball ends ands ee if that helps.

The top strings on my TRS kept going flat because they were slipping in the bridge.
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Old 04-16-2004, 03:29 AM
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I had a similar problem with my 03' Jem 555.
I didn't notice how extreme the problem was until I took it with me to a gig &amp; checked it with my tuner after every song.

Everytime I used the damn bar, or even looked at it funny, I would be out about a 1/2 step. Not just a few strings...the entire guitar!!!
Needless to say it didn't finish out an entire set &amp; has been retired from live situations.

Maybe it's all in my head, but when I started cutting the ball ends off again it seemed to stay in tune better.
Plus I took it out of E flat &amp; left in in E. That seemed to help too.

For some reason that guitar HATED E flat.
My RG 550's that I gig with constantly never have that problem....
However, they also have the locking stud design that the new trem lack.

Dunno....

I'd say try NOT leaving the ball ends on....

Also swearing profusely at your guitar might help slightly
Works for me
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Old 04-16-2004, 03:30 AM
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I had a similar problem with my 03' Jem 555.
I didn't notice how extreme the problem was until I took it with me to a gig &amp; checked it with my tuner after every song.

Everytime I used the damn bar, or even looked at it funny, I would be out about a 1/2 step. Not just a few strings...the entire guitar!!!
Needless to say it didn't finish out an entire set &amp; has been retired from live situations.

Maybe it's all in my head, but when I started cutting the ball ends off again it seemed to stay in tune better.
Plus I took it out of E flat &amp; left in in E. That seemed to help too.

For some reason that guitar HATED E flat.
My RG 550's that I gig with constantly never have that problem....
However, they also have the locking stud design that the new trem lack.

Dunno....

I'd say try NOT leaving the ball ends on....

Also swearing profusely at your guitar might help slightly
Works for me
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Old 04-17-2004, 02:59 AM
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Ugh, I was tired and didn't get my point across right.

The strings in my TRS wouldn't stay clamped in the bridge no matter what, the strings were just too hard for it (was it the Blue steels? I dunno...) and the tin foil just crumpled around it no matter how loose I tightened it. I only tightened it super tight when I just gave up on the damn thing. Whatever, I was gentle at first and got progressively tighter with it as the problem persisted.

Anyway, my point was supposed to be that it might be slipping out of the saddles, but that's if they're going flat. But if they go flat the others will go sharp, obviously. Watch them. And if they're slipping there, then leaving the ball ends on will keep things from slipping out.

If it doesn't seem to be doing that, then dont bother. But that's all I was saying. It would give the saddles something to grab onto other than just bare string.
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Old 04-17-2004, 02:28 PM
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One thing I've recently read is that if you find your guitar goes UP in pitch out of tune then check that the allen bolts that attach the nut to the neck are properly secure.
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Old 04-17-2004, 03:25 PM
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be careful back there, though. Overtightening those is the easiest way to crack the neck. And if you think that it's not staying in tune now...a nice crack behind the nut will make it even worse.
-J
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