Floyd Rose Licensed trems at Guitarpartsdepot

[StevenMikel]

Has anybody tried any of the FR Licensed trems from Guitarpartsdepot?Are they any good?I'd like to put an original Edge in my RGT42FM but,don't have that much $$ right now.Just a suggestion,maybe there should be sticky covering Ibanez trems and trem swaping.

[GPDSales]

The Floyd Rose Special is the best licensed Floyd out there by far.

[TKO Ken]

For the same $$ you can get a used Edge or Edge Pro with replaceable knife edges on the auction site.

[GPDSales]

Key word is used.....

[LonePhantom]

Originally Posted by nikopapp

The Floyd Rose Special is the best licensed Floyd out there by far.

Better than the Gotoh licensed Floyd Rose which comes with locking studs?

[GuitarBizarre]

I can't be the only person who is hesitant to buy one of these. Fair enough the VENDOR says they're made to original floyd specifications but with better QC than Schaller, but thats just it...

The only source of info on this thing is the only vendor who sells them. The pictures on the site are small, and theres no information on how they're made or by who. For all we know about what these things ACTUALLY are, they could be a remodelled TRS or something.

[Ayrton]

The specials are made to Floyd specs, but with zinc saddles and block. I have no idea if the base plate is also zinc.

[GPDSales]

The base plate is hardened steel.

I never said the QC was better than Schaller.....

I don't hink they are better than the Gotoh's, which I really like.

But they are better than all the others.

[Ayrton]

The zinc will give the trem a "warmer" sound similar to the Ibanez. Of course I have never used one, but I would have to think it is a decent upgrade for someone with a TRS.

[GuitarBizarre]

Oh really?

Originally Posted by nikopapp

We now have the brand new Floyd Rose Special in.
We have the exclusive on these, no one else has them!

The Special is engineered to the exact specs of the Original Floyd Rose.

This is the best of the best when it comes to licensed Floyd Rose bridges, it blows all the others away!

So, by the words in your first post on these bridges, they blow EVERYTHING else away. The only thing that makes a concession to Schaller's QC in any way is the 'licensed' bit, but you have to have known that Gotohs, Edges in their various forms, and even the Schaller redesigned bridges, are all 'licensed' but are held to be equal to or better than the OFR. John Suhr in particular claims the Gotohs have much better QC than Schaller, and I'd say he's a reliable enough source. And what about the Graphtech LB63, which is also licensed and has some very cool features? That bridge in particular has a much bigger brand behind it, incorporating some industry acclaimed features never before seen on floyds but with great prior track records (Graphtech piezo saddles), and yet I still treat it with caution because the core mechanic hasn't been heavily tested or reviewed yet!

Since the specification is the same as the OFR, then that means they HAVE to be better made to be the best on the market, either in terms of materials or fit and finish, both of which are Quality Control issues. Since Schaller make licensed floyds too, that means they must be better than at least some Schallers. Even accepting your Licensed comment, I don't see why Schaller would waste R+D to make changes to the Floyd Rose and redesign it, only to make a worse product with more lax processes.

I understand the idea of 'This is the best licensed floyd currently on the market', but this is jemsite. We're built around guitar technology and trems are a specialty, I want to hear more than a base assertion, I want to hear some evidence.

I want assertions they're built by someone incredibly skilled with machining, or that the base plate is higher grade steel, or that the arm holders are redesigned for less slippage, or that the saddles are redesigned for a better break angle, just SOMETHING that sets this apart and gives me a good reason to take a chance on this, brand new product, rather than just buying the already incredibly well reviewed and established gotoh or shaller floyds.


And then you had to backpedal, pointing out this:

Originally Posted by nikopapp

The base plate is hardened steel.

I never said the QC was better than Schaller.....

I don't think they are better than the Gotoh's, which I really like.

But they are better than all the others.

What happened to 'Blows all the others away'?



I'm honestly not trying to break your balls over this, if it IS a fantastic product then I'm more than happy to buy one, two, three, a million! But like I said, you're going to need MUCH more than a simple assertion to win over most buyers. Me in particular. You're the vendor. Trustworthy or not, you have a vested interest in this product and saying its fantastic is all well and good but doesn't hold a vast amount of weight.

Some better pictures on your website would be helpful too. Show off some of this fantastic craftsmanship with detail shots. The thumbnail sized picture you have up there now doesn't look ANY different in any way from the other hundreds of sites selling some various forms of floyds, licensed or no.

Oh, and as for hardened steel...you can buy steel tools that have technically been 'hardened' that are still extremely soft compared to a high quality part thats been hardened to say, 55 rockwell or above. Some fine kitchen knives are 70 rockwell or more!

[Ayrton]

Stop being a tard and read...

Bridge Specifications :
* Steel Plate
* Steel Studs & Bushing
* Steel Screws
* 10.8mm String Spacing
* Zinc Saddles & Sustain Block
* Bridge Harden 50-55 Rockwell
* Floyd Rose Trade Dress

Nut Specifications :
* Width – 42mm
* Radius – 300mm
* Height @ D – 6mm
* E to E Center Width – 36.50mm
* String Spacing – 7.30mm


The OFR Special is just a Floyd, but with a zinc block and saddles. I am sure it is built somewhere in Southeast Asia.

[Matheau]

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

Since the specification is the same as the OFR, then that means they HAVE to be better made to be the best on the market, either in terms of materials or fit and finish, both of which are Quality Control issues. Since Schaller make licensed floyds too, that means they must be better than at least some Schallers. Even accepting your Licensed comment, I don't see why Schaller would waste R+D to make changes to the Floyd Rose and redesign it, only to make a worse product with more lax processes.

I understand the idea of 'This is the best licensed floyd currently on the market', but this is jemsite. We're built around guitar technology and trems are a specialty, I want to hear more than a base assertion, I want to hear some evidence.

I want assertions they're built by someone incredibly skilled with machining, or that the base plate is higher grade steel, or that the arm holders are redesigned for less slippage, or that the saddles are redesigned for a better break angle, just SOMETHING that sets this apart and gives me a good reason to take a chance on this, brand new product, rather than just buying the already incredibly well reviewed and established gotoh or shaller floyds.

Actually materials and fit and finish are manufacturing, not quality control issues. Quality control deals with how good a company is at making sure the released products meet standards. If Company A makes 9 good bridges and 1 bad bridge with each 10 they release and Company B makes 1000 bridges, only 10 are good, but they only release those 10 and throw the other 990 away, then Company B has better quality control and Company A has more efficient manufacturing.

There are subjective aspects to this, so making an assertion that one bridge is better than another without singling out aspects of the bridge (tuning stability, sustain, range of motion, longevity, etc) is kind of meaningless. Keep in mind it is easier to use the term "best" in advertising than "better." If you consider every guitar bridge to be equal, then they are all the best, so you can say yours is the best and neglect to mention that the only criteria of quality is whether or not it is a guitar bridge.

Also I would think the Vigier brand is arguably the best licensed Floyd Rose out there, since that is really the only design where cost was not really a consideration (the cheapest guitar they go in is around $2000, after all). Even though they gutted out and changed most of the design, it is still a licensed Floyd Rose.

[GuitarBizarre]

Originally Posted by Ayrton

Stop being a tard and read...

Bridge Specifications :
* Steel Plate
* Steel Studs & Bushing
* Steel Screws
* 10.8mm String Spacing
* Zinc Saddles & Sustain Block
* Bridge Harden 50-55 Rockwell
* Floyd Rose Trade Dress

Nut Specifications :
* Width – 42mm
* Radius – 300mm
* Height @ D – 6mm
* E to E Center Width – 36.50mm
* String Spacing – 7.30mm


The OFR Special is just a Floyd, but with a zinc block and saddles. I am sure it is built somewhere in Southeast Asia.

Fair enough then, but if i'm honest i don't remember seeing any detailed specs like that when i checked the site originally. More detailed pics would be nice though. I think the one they have might even be a stock photo.

[Ayrton]

I agree better pictures would help.

[GPDSales]

The specs have been up since day one.

Keep in mind that when anyone, be it John Suhr, Floyd Rose himself, or Steve Vai gives their opinion on a product, it is just that, an opinion.

When I say they are the best licensed Floyd, that is my opinion.

I have used all the others; In my opinion, the best licensed tems are the Gotoh, and the Floyd Rose Special.

I can give specs, but in reality, who cares about specs?

All I care about is how it works, feels, and sounds to ME.

I should have clarified though, that when I say it blows away all the others, I mean in it's price range.

The Gotoh and Schaller are not close to the price on the Special.

I hope that clears up some of the confusion.