Go Back   Jemsite > Toolbox: Setup, Repairs and Mods > Tech: Setup, Repairs and Mods

Tech: Setup, Repairs and Mods Guitar workbench discussion such as setup, repairs, mods, installing new parts and more.



Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-19-2001, 04:26 AM
Kyle Odom Kyle Odom is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Tidewater Virginia
Posts: 156  -  iTrader: (0)

Fret Dressing How To - Not for the weak of stomach


I found the joys about five years ago about a GOOD fret dressing and what it can do for your guitar and for your playing. *I have decided to share my process with you. *This is not something you want to try on a guitar you can't live without. *If you are good with tools and patient, you should be able to do your main guitar after you try it once on an "expendable" axe.
This process takes a LOT of time but is very rewarding once you get it right. *In advance, I suggest reading books on guitar repair especially by Dan Erlewine. *He is great. *My method is derived from what he wrote.
First you need:
Masking Tape
A Bastard Mill File
A tapered 1/4" to 1/8"(or so) file
A 2' Straight Edge
Some Medium and Fine Sandpaper (auto finish works best)
Medium Steel Wool
Super Fine Steel Wool
Some kind of fretboard oil (if doing on ebony or rosewood fingerboard guitars only, don't use on finished fingerboards)
Dremel tool (preferred but not absolutely needed)

Before you start with the guitar, you need to modify the files. *Use your Dremel to take the pointy edges off of the triangle file. *This is so you don't damage the fingerboard. *Although optional, I also used the Dremel to remove the handle from the mill file and grind away all sharp edges so I don't accidentally damage anything.
First you must prep the guitar. *I usually leave the neck on the guitar, but to start, sometimes it's easier to remove the neck. *If you leave it on the guitar, then put masking tape over the pickups so you don't get a bunch of junk on them like fret shavings or bits of steel wool.
Once the strings are off, adjust the truss rod so that the neck is perfectly straight. (use straight edge)
Here's where you use the Bastard Mill to go up and down the length of the neck and level all the frets. *Never go side to side, just up and down. *Start with the whole neck all the way up and down the move a little up on the frets, and then spot check with the straight edge to see if you need to concentrate on one area. *Don't apply too much pressure and use the straight edge often to ensure no high/low spots. *You can also use a shorter straight edge for this. *Be careful to maintain the same radius or you will have problems. *Once you are satisfied that the frets are as straight as the neck, then it's time to go fret to fret.
First you want to mask off the fingerboard area before and after each fret. *I do this one at a time as I move up the neck. *I use 2-3 pieces of masking tape over each other to make sure I don't damage the fingerboard. *You will probably be able to use this stack of tape for a few frets before you have to do it again.
Now you take the triangle file and re-shape the fret. *What you are trying to accomplish is a fret with a distinct crown that is right in it's center. *You need to do this without taking much material off the center or you will undo the leveling that you just did. *This is by far the hardest part and takes the most attention to detail and patience. *I use the file and roll it over the fret as I push it forward at a 15-30 degree angle or so, starting at one end of the fret and moving to the other. *The cut on the file is push only. *This part is not an exact science and it tough to judge. *You should plan on spending 2-3 minutes per fret your first go at this stage alone. *You have to be very carefull to hit the fingerboard as little as possibe as even though it is protected by the tape, it can still be damaged. *Pay extra, extra attention to this if you don't grind down the sharp edges of your triangle file.
I pay special attention to the fret ends as it is a pet peeve of mine. *They should be well tapered, but the taper should end with enough room left over to apply vibrato to the "E" strings without sending the string off the fret.
Now that your fret is level, you want it smooth as the glass on your monitor.
Start this process with the medium sandpaper. *Use it lenghtwise against the fret to remove any file marks. *Again, don't over concentrate on one area or you may lower the fret too much.
Now repeat the last step with the fine sandpaper. *Your goal here is to remove what is left of the file marks and the scoring from the medium paper.
Now you switch to the steel wool. *Starting with the medium, press hard and move fast upon the length of the fret to get rid of all the scratches from the previous abrasives.
By the time you get to the super fine steel wool, you are only polishing the fret. *Once you finish with it, you should have a very shiny fret that is very round. *You should not see any angles on the fret at all, just round. *The peak should be in the center of the fret.
If you have a rosewood or ebony fingerboard, I have found the tape dehydrates it. *Use the oil (as directed on the bottle) on it to rehydrate the fingerboard. *I oil my rosewood fingerboards every other string change.
When you first string up and play your guitar, you will find a little bit of noise when you bend strings or use vibrato. *This is normal and will go away very quickly, say an hour's worth of play or so. *If it doesn't, then you might need to use the sandpaper/steel wool again.
You will not believe the difference this process makes until you have done it and played it. *My guess is a local luthier would charge $50-$200 dollars to do this. *If you don't think you can do it yourself and you still want it done, do not trust just any mom and pop music store's repair man. *Ask to look at and play examples. *Look for noise when bending and using vibrato and intomation as well as general playability.
If you are in a bind and you need a hand, email me at hecull@home.com *Give me a day to respond please. *If you do try this, good luck!
Have fun and fix it yourself!
KO
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-19-2001, 12:13 PM
Rich Rich is offline
Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 18,373  -  iTrader: (18)

Fret Dressing How To


I'm wondering why you just don't use a crowning file?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-19-2001, 06:04 PM
rickboot rickboot is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 447  -  iTrader: (0)

Fret Dressing How To


Using a triangle file to crown is old school. Some luthiers still do it this way though. I have tried both and prefer the crowning file. It costs a more but it saves time and lessens the chance of error.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-19-2001, 10:06 PM
spiro spiro is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sydney,Australia
Posts: 125  -  iTrader: (0)

Fret Dressing How To


i personally prefer the triangle file as you have more control of how much meat you take of the fret...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-20-2001, 03:30 AM
Kyle Odom Kyle Odom is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Tidewater Virginia
Posts: 156  -  iTrader: (0)

Fret Dressing How To


The problem with the crowning file is there is so much different fret wire used. *You don't want to use a crowning file made for different fret wire than you have or else risk some serious damage. *Plus I wanted to list tools that are available anywhere. *I personally like the Stew Mac triangle file that has the edges already ground off. *But, if I was to purchase all the specialized tools from Stew Mac or LMI I would be looking at a LOT of money. *For the non professional repair guy it's not worth it if you can do as well of a job, if not better, without them (but you are right it takes longer.) *I also agree with Spiro, I feel I have much more control with the triangle file. *It does take a good touch though and for beginners the right size crowning file is a good idea.
The point of the post is to encourage players to work on their own guitars. *I get just as much satisfaction from working on my guitars as I do playing them(but I do know this is not for everyone.) *I have gone out on a limb to do some repairs to my guitars that were way over my head, but in every case they worked out better than if I had paid a pro. *Actually I have done almost as many repairs for others as I have for myself. *For me it's fun to do things in the old school because I get so much more satisfaction out of it *The current way of doing any guitar work is just taking your guitar to the shop and I think people are missing out on another rewarding hobby, repair and customization.
My next step is to make a guitar or two. *If that goes well who knows, maybe I will be the next Tom Anderson.
Fat chance, but still, I'm good with wood, steel, nickel, magnets wire, and switches...
The current quality level of many production guitars is horrible, but you can still buy a "cheap" guitar and make it good if not great if you know what you are doing. *I just want people to realize that and maybe find another hobby branched from what they currently enjoy.
Thanks for the additional input!!!
KO
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-20-2001, 03:43 AM
Rich Rich is offline
Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 18,373  -  iTrader: (18)

Fret Dressing How To


I'm one of the biggest proponents of "Do your own work!", but if you practice on one, and then do another, for $60 a diamond grit medium/large Stew Mac cowning file is worth the $$'s. For fretwork this is really all you need to buy that's a tool. Everything else is paper etc. I never use a file on the tops of the frets though, I'm a firm follower of paper on a block. I'll use a file to take down humps before switching to a block, but I'm using paper to finish level. Between chatter and gouging, files are too destructive and not near as controllable, least not to me.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-23-2001, 05:06 PM
frankfalbo frankfalbo is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: California
Posts: 1,760  -  iTrader: (13)

Fret Dressing How To


I agree I have a special file for humps and bumps but I always finish with flat or radiused blocks with paper. I still use the old angled crowning file with the three different inserts. The three widths are enough, because a lot of the difference between fretwire is in the height, and the crown is simply restoring a radius to the top. *But if I did the re-fret, there is little crowning necessary, and most of the time I don't have to crown at all. So if you do a level and find that you haven't really taken anything off, you can crown with fine sandpaper. I like the little sanding stick.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
dan erlewine, ebony fingerboard, fret wire, local luthier, music store, rosewood fingerboard, steel wool, truss rod


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) jemsite.com