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Old 05-30-2003, 09:52 PM
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Graduated fret technique for lower action. Anyone try this?


I saw in a stew mac catalog a long time ago that someone was using a fret method to achieve lower overall action.....especially on tremolo guitars.
I do not have that catalog anymore....but the guy that briefly talked about it....mentioned that he uses different fret heights as they go from the nut to the heel of the fingerboard.

Can't remember if the height decreased or increased as it goes toward the heel end.....and the rest of what he said regarding this "fret" technique.

Does anyone know anything about this in detail.....and more so, has anyone tried this with excellent results?

Does this really give you lower action?
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Old 05-31-2003, 12:01 AM
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Re: Graduated fret technique for lower action. Anyone try th


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I saw in a stew mac catalog a long time ago that someone was using a fret method to achieve lower overall action.....especially on tremolo guitars.
I do not have that catalog anymore....but the guy that briefly talked about it....mentioned that he uses different fret heights as they go from the nut to the heel of the fingerboard.

Can't remember if the height decreased or increased as it goes toward the heel end.....and the rest of what he said regarding this "fret" technique.

Does anyone know anything about this in detail.....and more so, has anyone tried this with excellent results?

Does this really give you lower action?
It wouldn't be a smoothly graduated difference in fret height all the way up the neck - that could be easier achieved by changing the neck angle. But I have heard of "fall off". On the highest frets, Dan Erlewine smoothly drops the height off. I'm having Jeremy look at a problem neck now that I think this would have fixed.
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Old 05-31-2003, 11:11 AM
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Maybe they were talking about compound-radius fretboards? Lower (rounder) radius at the low end for easier chording, higher (flatter) radius at the high end for easier bending without the notes choking.
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Old 05-31-2003, 04:28 PM
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I can't remember if it's Gryphon, or whoever, but someone Rich mentioned here is spouting off about some eliptical levelling or something. It looks very similar to a compound radius, although the drawing has neck bow put into it. So it looks real scientific and like you could justify the extra money for it. I "get" it, so I'm not some simpleton who looks at the drawing and scratches my head, but it seems to me that its simply a compound radius that is ground or milled into the frets while the neck is under simulated tension. So they get your neck to be properly bowed, and then remove any inconsistencies from the fret tops. This is an automatic during a refret, because it's done if you level the board under simulated tension, and fret with varying pressure. But the real genious here is that they are doing it all to the frets, not the neck. I guess that's worth something. Plus they say they'll consult with you about how you play first. I think that just translates into the "bow/radius" factor. To me, levelling the frets under simulated string tension while minding the playing style is 99% of this deal.
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Old 05-31-2003, 04:44 PM
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Sounds like the Plek treatment.
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Old 06-01-2003, 01:35 AM
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Yeah, that's the one. Am I right, though? Or am I missing something?
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Old 06-01-2003, 07:15 AM
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http://www.plek.com/index.php

It's not like they provide you with much info, but it will carve your frets into the optimum profile for your "style" [whatever that means]. And yea it looks like multiradiusing in alot of it. But it's more about getting the grind perfect on each fret to .001mm while it's under tension. It's got to be the ultimate in level's, but you gotta figure gettin plek'd has got to be expensive considering what you'd have to pay to buy one of those systems. Looks like one serious cash cow unless you can get enough work to pay off all that equipment, but, if it'll crown the frets and polish everything when it's done, that's a tech's dream machine
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