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Old 06-05-2004, 11:55 AM
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help please, new 1527 truss rod problem i think.


Ok, I just got my new 1527 7string and its sweet etc however I'm having a nightmare with the action and the neck and i think the truss rod needs adjusting.

Firstly the setup from the factory was appaling, but no supprise there expected to have to tweak. Gauge 9's and 3 springs is the dumbest thing I've had 4 ibanez's now and none have ever floated at the right angle with 9's and 3 springs.

So first thing i did was change add another spring and set the trem angle. Next I noticed the action was really high, so I lowered the bridge which took down the the action in the high frets but the middle of the neck still has way way to much height. Its really uncomfortable to play.

I'm guessing that this means there's too much bow in the neck and it needs tightening to even it out? I'm a complete novice with truss rods and am reasonably scared of them, however perfectly willing to adjust it with the wonderful advice of the techies on here! If anyone can give me a diagnosis if what i'm saying is correct and if so whats the best way to adjust the truss rod.

Thanks in advance.

David
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Old 06-05-2004, 02:18 PM
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All the techies here will tell you if you can't get the correct trem angle with 9's and 3 springs then you're trying to get an incorrect trem angle

http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/angle.htm

Fret first and last fret and note the gap at the 9th. Big gap tighten the truss rod. No gap loosen it. You can't go wrong making a truss adjustment unless you go past a straight neck and into backbbow.
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Old 06-05-2004, 04:40 PM
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thanks rich, however i've devoured your tech setups sectins many times and it was your wisdom and excellent tips that first convinced me to take my neck and bridge off my jem . Sounds silly now but i was paranoid about it.

however i still contest that evey edge trem i've had has never floated to the angle you say is correct with 3 springs and guage 9's.

But back on track anyway about the truss rod...is it ok to just pop the bridge off to do the adjustments, is this best so i dont have the tension of the strings whilst turning the rod?

thanks again mate

Dave
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Old 06-05-2004, 05:40 PM
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There's no reason not to adjust the rod at full pitch
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Old 06-05-2004, 06:04 PM
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really? i was told by a lutheir degree student that you shouldnt adjust the rod with the string tension on...but you've been doing this for how long? so if you come back with an explanation for me dude, i'll be attacking my rod this evening

cheers again

dave

p.s one more thing, is it turn the wrench to the right to lessen the bow, i.e bring the action down?
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Old 06-05-2004, 06:18 PM
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Let me know when he graduates
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Old 06-05-2004, 06:23 PM
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LoL ok fair enough i guess its alright then?

so was i correct about the direction i'm turning it in?

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Old 06-05-2004, 06:25 PM
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He may have a point for old tired vintage types that have 40-50 years or more of constant wear and the possibility of stripping a well worn truss rod, but that's not exactly apples and oranges is it?

righty tighty
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