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Old 11-30-2007, 04:25 PM
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Help with fixed bridge?


Hi all. I have an RG321 (no groans, please, I know its not the DNA). I'd like to replace the bridge on it. The guitar is string-thru body, which I really like, so I was hoping to find a compatible bridge that will still allow me to use that feature. One of the reasons I want to change the bridge is that I tune the thing down to C standard, which is messing with the intonation a bit, and I'd like to have a bridge with a little more saddle travel so that I can get the intonation right. Does anyone have any suggestions for a fixed bridge that would suit? I don't know much about brands or models of after-market accessories. I'd really appreciate any advice you guys have to offer.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


It seems bizarre that the current bridge doesn't allow proper intonation . . .
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:06 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


I have the low "E" cranked as far as it will go to the point where the spring is eating itself. I think the bridge placement could have been a little better. It's not exactly at a right angle, and it's a junk bridge to start with. I just have no idea what to put in its place.
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:37 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


It just kind of dawned on me that most of you have Floyds. This is probably the wrong forum to be asking such a question.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:05 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


Try taking the spring off the low-e saddle and you might be able to tighten it enough for proper intonation. Just cause we have floyds doesn't mean with have no hardtail bridge guitars....
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:32 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


Yeah true many people here have hardtails. I'm wondering if you could do something like adjust the trussrod and/or saddle height to make things a bit easier. It's possible the factory set-up was not up to par, and you're having trouble intonating because of it. I mean I'm sure you can rustle up a bridge that would work, though it might not line up with the holes in the body you've got. I'm just trying to think of easier solutions than replacing the bridge.
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Old 11-30-2007, 08:55 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


Just cut the spring. I've had to do it before myself. It's no big deal, and will take care of the problem. --Jason
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Old 11-30-2007, 11:18 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


What gauge strings do you have on there?
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:29 PM
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Old 12-04-2007, 01:29 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


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Old 12-04-2007, 04:17 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


Hi there, alot of us here have hard tails too.

I have an RG421 (jap version of the 321)... pretty much EXACTLY the same, body wood is different though I think. The 321 having the nicer mahogony.

Very strange that you can't intonate for C tuning with the standard bridge... You should be able to. Maybe put the saddles back to neutral and start again?
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Old 12-04-2007, 04:38 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


Hipshot makes some of the finest hardtails and strat hardware available.
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


Difficult intonation sometimes comes from...flat nut slots!

The string can in some case have "floating" support point because there is not enough slot angle.

I experienced this case on an RGA121, not really the cheapest Ibanez...

I went through the process of removing springs, etc. But the problem disappeared after I changed the nut (some graphtech's are perfect for Ibanez).

I had the idea to check that after reading a "build your own guitar in 10 easy steps" kind of book where the author mentionned that cutting flat nut slots could simply completely ruin intonation of the guitar.
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:44 AM
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Re: Help with fixed bridge?


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Wow, that's an extremely heavy bottom string, even for C Standard, which might be part of the problem.

Anyway, I put one of these on my RG320-RG321 conversion project with a string-through setup and I have no complaints at all with it.
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