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post #16 of 32 (permalink) Old 04-29-2011, 01:52 PM
 
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Im not doing the back, .
why not?
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Re: Im never using paint to clear coat again.

I feel a tutorial would be in order before we have people flying off the handle with their "ruined' guitars, and let me see how good it comes out Still somewhat wavy (curved guitar, gotta expect that), so Im gonna let it fully harden and start sanding it flat tomorrow. But thats kinda the point! Theres sooo much clear on it now, it can take some serious abuse before damaging the actual paint. And chips would be INSANELY easy to fix haha.
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I got some amazing fabric today for a floral and will more than likely take the plunge and try the Envirotex lite route. I'll definitely take pictures and post how it turns out. Seems like a great way to do this. I've read too much conflicting information regarding deft sand n sealer and fabric.
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I'm very curious how this turned out. I have a practice body that I'm going to use for my Tron artwork guitar and am seriously thinking about trying this method for sealing in the artwork.
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hahaha


I messed it up. its coming out ok though. If you can pour the epoxy in one swoop, it comes out great....


... for the top lol. the sides are impossible to do properly as you guys guessed it would.


I feel this finish will last FOREVER, but its not really conducive to anything other then fabric tops. If you tape up the sides and do a fabric top with this, I believe it will come out FANTASTIC!!! it definitely will work better then sanding sealer, for sure.
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My feeling on how to do this was to tape around the sides of the guitar, sort of like a natural "binding" that you see on maple top guitars. I figured that once the tape was pulled, it would be pretty easy to blend the epoxy into the clear on the sides of the guitar. Is that kind of what you were thinking?
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My feeling on how to do this was to tape around the sides of the guitar, sort of like a natural "binding" that you see on maple top guitars. I figured that once the tape was pulled, it would be pretty easy to blend the epoxy into the clear on the sides of the guitar. Is that kind of what you were thinking?
pretty much. just remove it when the epoxy is tacky though, other wise you will crack it off, and that would be ugly...

that or get REALLY handy with a scalpel...
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Re: Im never using paint to clear coat again.

doesn't it pool up in the forearm contour?
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doesn't it pool up in the forearm contour?
nope.

and thank god for power sanders.
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I've never looked into the Envirotex (or it's price) so I'm wondering....... is mixing a large batch and dipping a realistic possibility?? I used to gel-coat large fiberglass parts like this......


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pretty much. just remove it when the epoxy is tacky though, other wise you will crack it off, and that would be ugly...

that or get REALLY handy with a scalpel...
The idea is to sand through the edge so that you can pull all the tape without cracking. Then you work on blending the seam.
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Is there a way to make that stuff thinner to make it sprayable like a clearcoat?
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Is there a way to make that stuff thinner to make it sprayable like a clearcoat?
No. the very nature of it is to be thick. Besides, its self catalytic, and would be impossible to clean out of a gun if it hardened in there.



TAR -> Yeah thought about that, but Id be nervous about damaging the front, nothing a buffer couldnt handle I suppose.


RGT -> you mean dip the whole thing? That my be counter productive...
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Is it a good idea to use epoxy on the front and back and clear coat on the sides?

I had never painted a guitar before. So I don't know what to expect or do.
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Is it a good idea to use epoxy on the front and back and clear coat on the sides?

I had never painted a guitar before. So I don't know what to expect or do.
Guitar is just a piece of wood, nothing special or supernatural.
No need to go to college to paint things.
Painting a piece of wood or ANY other material is not rocket science,you paint it and if it turned crap, re-paint it.
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