Improving flutter?

[GuyAlexander]

My question is, is it possible to improve the amount of flutter in your trem?

I was at a music store a few weeks ago and played an S620 with the ZR trem, though i've been hearing that it isn't as good as an original Edge or OFR, this thing fluttered like no other trem I have handled.

Can it be that it was set up differently? What exactly can improve flutter if it is even possible?


Thanks!

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

All I can tell you is that the ZR trem IMHO is excellent!!! does not come short of the edge or OFR in any department!

[C.Thep]

Try thicker strings

[kennydoe]

Originally Posted by C.Thep

Try thicker strings

other way bro....lower gagues flutter better.

[ryanb]

Seems like the first step would be to disconnect the Zero Point system (the backstop-like thing in the back).

[C.Thep]

Originally Posted by kennydoe

other way bro....lower gagues flutter better.

Well, they flutter differently, Thicker strings do a more powerful flutter, but I guess its just a matter of opinion.

[Dee]

So what is it that helps get a better flutter? Must be the springs, surely?

[Racerx2k]

Springs that are broken in are key. Another important piece is the actual mass of the trem. I play 9s, and usually use 2 springs. I once read that springs have most of their tension, closer to coil bind. As they are stretched further out from there, they have less tension.

[buddroyce]

+1 for using 2 springs for max flutter power ;-)

[Dee]

DO you guys screw those 2 springs all the way in? I'd guess you'd have to, or almost all the way. I might give it a try.

[Dee]

OK, forget that! I rounded off a screw head trying to get it all the way in. Back to 3 springs. Flutter was unaffected, by the way.

[Racerx2k]

You MAY have to break the spring it, too. How old are they? I've seen people actually build jigs, with a piece of board, and two screws, placed enough apart, so as to stretch the spring out between the two. I've also seen where people have taken a 1-screw board, anchored it on the edge of a table, and tied weights off to the spring. Whatever really pulls on it for a day or two.
Personally, I adhere to the DIVE-BOMB-THE-SH#T-OUT-OF-IT-TILL-THEY-BREAK-IN method. Seems like the most fun, to me.

[Dee]

Break-in? Heh. These springs are 17 years old!

[sers]

i`m sure that you will need a tigh trem arm

[Racerx2k]

Originally Posted by Dee

Break-in? Heh. These springs are 17 years old!

Well, so much for THAT theory, then, huh? hehe.