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Old 06-07-2001, 06:26 AM
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is pledge bad for guitar finish? * - works great!...but am i


hello. *i was wondering if pledge (you know, the wood polisher stuff) is bad for guitars. *i tried it once and it worked super good...probably better than guitar polish, and i want to start using it but i don't want to ruin the finish. *i also used lemon oil manufactured for cleaning furniture on my fretboard and that worked just as well as fret conditioner (fret conditioner's just lemon oil right?). *just want to make sure it's all ok to be using before i screw something up. *thanks! *
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Old 06-07-2001, 12:00 PM
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I cant tell you about how it affects guitar finish, but I can say that Lemon Fresh Pledge makes a good backup deoderant aerosol. *I keep some in the bathroom cupboard just in case.
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Old 06-07-2001, 12:31 PM
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

That is classic!

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Old 06-07-2001, 01:08 PM
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A good buddy of mine used Pledge way, way back in the 70's and it worked well for him. *However, since he now got back into guitar, he started using Pledge once again. *That was a mistake! *Apparently, there has been a change in the ingredients. *It causes a waxy buildup on the back of the neck. *Don't know how this would effect the finish, but I recommend something else.

Gabe
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Old 06-07-2001, 01:11 PM
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I've said it a bazillion times on the forum(s)... but...

ENDUST

No wax cleaner/polish. *Use it. *It's safe. *It works.
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Old 06-08-2001, 02:08 AM
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well, i actually think that the pledge i used was a no wax formula. *i might be wrong though. *but anyway, endust....i'll have to check that out. *can you buy that at a grocery store? *
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Old 06-08-2001, 02:54 AM
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OK, Pledge may seem fine, BUT DO NOT get it on anything that is metal or chrome or whatever. fret wire doesnt count as it is non corrosive. if you get a citric acid on the metal it will corrode it.

Another tip, i always like to use WD-40 when cleaning my bridges or anything else. it cleans it very well and conditions the moving parts.
There is a process involved and you'll want to get the excess off..
For Q. on the matter let me know


scott
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Old 06-08-2001, 05:39 AM
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I am about to try Birchwood Casey Gunstock Wax . It is the stuff EB uses on their oiled necks. I'll let you all know how it works out.
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Old 06-08-2001, 10:41 PM
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Vwall, do expand on the WD-40 process if you would be so kind? *I have had pretty good luck just disassembling the whole bridge assy. once a year to clean out the gunk and then set the thing back up. most of my Edge trems have 0 pitting or rust from the annual preventive maintence.
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Old 06-09-2001, 02:23 AM
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here is my process. :
Remove the bridge
remove all threaded instruments and the little nuts that hold the string in..whatever you call em.
leave the saddles on or take em off... I usually leave em on as I don't want to re intonate the things.

get your self a practical container that you can submerse the bridge in, if you cant find one then flip it every 4-6 hours. be sure to throw all the screws and whatever else you took off in the can.
If the bridge is already pretty clean just let it sit a half a day or so.

check on it after a few hours to see how the *corrosion and crud have dissipated. You will need an abrasive tooth brush and a good wire brush for the threads. now is also a good time to use a 0000 steel wool if you want to clean and polish the bridge or what ever else. the brushes can only do so much so it is a good idea to give it a once over if needed. if you use the wool, make sure you put the parts back in the solution of wd 40 and be sure to spray the bridge down and soak it as you take it out the final time. spray it under the saddles and in the lock holes. this will help push anything wedged in there. Primarily small items.

after you pull it out, make sure you have old socks towels or rags around to carry it in *so you wont trash you floors.
bring it to your work station and dry it off as good as you can, then start fine cleaning it. Use lots of Q-tips. they will be your best friend!!
Also be careful when holding screws and stuff and using a wire brush. I have poked myself enough time doing that.
if you get a bridge or even locking nuts or whatever that is very corroded or nadsy, you will need to repeat the soak process. That's when it pays off to do some cleaning during the soak time.

This process will keep your bridges, tuners, lock downs
screws and anything else in fine, clean working order and it helps to condition these parts as well. Be sure not to use WD 40 on anything electronic as WD 40 is highly conductive.

Doing this will keep your bridges and other parts in fine clean condition for the life of your guitar.

There may be other or even better ways of doing this but after 15 years and using other manufacturers products, this is the best thing I have come up with, some of the other stuff I have used, it actually made the parts gummy after about 6 months with their treatment on it.

I was excited when I came up with the idea too. maybe I invented it???

Oh yeah,make sure that if you don't remove the saddles that you check to see that they are tightened snuggly as the wd 40 will really juice it up and if they are not snug you may be doing an unwanted intonation job

Enjoy!!

Hope its as useful to you all as it has been for me!!!

Cheers!!


Scott
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Old 06-09-2001, 05:39 AM
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Whoa =o] what a process.............

And all this time I have just been taking mine apart and giving it a acetone bath which cut's the grease and leaves no residue.......

I use a cheap acid brush to swirl the dirt off, easy clean up and it evaporates off without harming the plating..

For the occastional rusty lockdown screw I usually hit it with a squirt of MarHyde rust converter (you can find this in most automotive sections) then I clean it up using the above process........

All work is done in a glass bowl and be sure to wear gloves if you use my method......

Oh for polishing I use a clean rag or paper towels which ever is closeest at the time...
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Old 06-09-2001, 06:21 AM
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my process doesnt take long for a general cleaning... usually, if you use my process, your bridges will stay in tip top shape and you will only need to do a light cleaning. i usually only take off the bridges once *every 2 years or so... that the kind of results you get with it.. for a light cleaning, get a little dish or something and spay some wd in it and swab the Q tip in it and work it thru right on the guitar. be sure to use a dry tip to wipe it off..

hey becalvert, whats this MarHyde stuff??? sounds like it could come in handy:-)
Esp on those really bad rust spots that are in the string nut areas. (caused by abuse and non maintenance) it takes alot of work to get that rust all gone.. .

Give me some more details on that rust product. it could really save some elbow grease!!

scott
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Old 06-09-2001, 06:33 AM
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It is Part of the Bondo Family of car care products.....

A long time ago it was promoted because it turns rust back into simple iron which is easily polished or painted
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Old 06-09-2001, 07:25 AM
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Another alternative (well, another take on vwall's process) - being a former inline skater, I used to be very careful with the bearings in my wheels and cleaned them every so often.

Some sport shops (probably specialist skater ones) or maybe car shops might sell this bearing cleaner fluid in a large jar, the idea being you put your bearings in and all the crud floats to the bottom.

Maybe you could put the trem in and voila...
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Old 06-09-2001, 08:01 AM
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mrthingyX is on the right track... however I would not recomend getting something labeled as a "bearing cleaner." *From my experience... all this is is a light machinist's oil directly marketed towards the skateboard/rollerblade community. *Basically the same concept behind putting a $5 price tag on an old piece of flannel and calling it a "guitar polish cloth."
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