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Old 05-13-2006, 08:29 AM
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How is that finish done??? I've got the guitar and it feels just great.
So, I would like to be able to do it in white. And speaking of white.... hwo can you prevent the white painting from getting yellow? Or "vintage"... Cause I Hate that... and can you get an aged white finish back to bright white???
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Old 05-13-2006, 06:50 PM
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hwo can you prevent the white painting from getting yellow?
AFAIK you add a UV inhibitor / stabilizer into the paint. Ibanez does that now on the 7VWH.

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... and can you get an aged white finish back to bright white???
Probably only by repainting it. There might be a way to bleach it or chemically treat it, but I wouldn't want to try it.
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Old 05-15-2006, 05:20 AM
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Re: Jem 7dbk


thanks ryanb. do you know where I can can get this uv inhibitior/stabilizer?
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Old 05-15-2006, 08:22 PM
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No.
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Old 05-16-2006, 05:12 AM
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Well, thanks anyway. At least this is an honest answer i understand...
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Old 05-16-2006, 07:01 AM
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Re: Jem 7dbk


There is a lot of science, experimentation and trail and error involved in this, mostly done by plastics-, pigment- and paint manufacturers. Some remarks:

Under intense light (UV), color pigments break down, and whites or clears go yellow. A pink jem will end up orange if it comes out of its case too much. A white UV goes yellow, some people like this effect ('vintage white') others, like you, don't

Some plastics/coatings/pigments are UV resistant, but they can also UV transparent! So an acrylic won't go yellow, but the pigments inside can still break down.

Carbon particles (soot) are a good way to absorb UV, so dark colors are better (plus the yellowing will show less, duh...)

A common pigment for whitening is Titanium Dioxide, it's also very UV resistant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanium_dioxide

The combination of an acrylic paint (PMMA UV transparant) and TiO2 will for instance give you a stable white.

Once the pigments have broken down, or the clears have yellowed you cannot go back. You can only refinish.
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Old 05-16-2006, 07:06 AM
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wow, dude...
how come you know THAT?
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Old 05-17-2006, 01:11 PM
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wow, dude...
how come you know THAT?
a bit of common knowledge
a bit of googling & wikipedia

oh, and I used to work for a plastics company, with lots of UV stable solutions.
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