Kahler vs Floyd Rose

nienturi · #1 08-15-2006, 01:53 PM

According to your experiences, which one would you pick up?

I know that lo pro edges and edges (for ibanez) are good. But even they go out of tune more easyly than kahlers'.

I have plans to get my own guitar built. So, i must decide well. Now, my decision is edge7 or lo pro edge7 (mostly lo pro edge7)

But i want my guitar has a tremolo unit, floating type. Moreover i want it to be in tune well, especially on bending... Shortly i need experinces, dudes...

john1880 · #2 08-15-2006, 03:37 PM

Floyd Rose. no, edges dont go out of tune unless there is a problem.
is kahler even in business anymore???????????
i hated my kahler!

john

wildchild247 · #3 08-15-2006, 04:03 PM

I had a kahler equipped guitar but it was too chunky for me to play with

it felt awkward positioning my hand over it

when playing

Floyd roses suited me better I use the low profile floyd rose

which for me is the best I ever used

fettouhi · #4 08-15-2006, 04:07 PM

Gotta go with the Floyd

. Kahler is back in business...

Regards

André

Demiurge · #5 08-15-2006, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fettouhi

Gotta go with the Floyd

. Kahler is back in business...

Regards

André

Indeed, Kahler is back. I had a gold 2700 series trem on the 'bay, and it was their parts department who were the ones who bought it from me. Weird, huh?

OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S · #6 08-15-2006, 04:17 PM

Both systems are good, I have guitars equipped with different kahler models and I must say I like them all, they also provide a bit of a better tone and sustain since they are mounted on the guitar vs being routed into the body.

**GilkyBear** · #7 08-15-2006, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by john1880

Floyd Rose. no, edges dont go out of tune unless there is a problem.

+1, I have never had a problem.

nienturi · #8 08-15-2006, 06:27 PM

Thanks for the comments everyone,

Quote:

Originally Posted by john1880

Floyd Rose. no, edges dont go out of tune unless there is a problem.
is kahler even in business anymore???????????
i hated my kahler!

What did make you angry with kahler john? Can you tell me a little please?

john1880 · #9 08-15-2006, 07:27 PM

my kahler never stayed in tune. the roller saddles froze up at one point. and when i whammied, it was like there was a lack of sustain. like the notes would die out, where as the floyd would sustain forever. maybe i just had bad luck, but when i played a floyd, i had the kahler replaced instantly. it left and extra gap in the guitar but i didnt care. this is the top mounted kahler, not the pivoting floyd rose type kahler. i think that was the kahler spider???
anyway...i also don't like the look of a kahler.
there's a reason why so many guitars have floyds and not kahlers. it works really great. it's such a simple design and does the job like no other.
you could go with a washburn wonder bar too. ;-)

JJEMMER777 · #10 08-15-2006, 08:56 PM

My Edges don't go out of tune! Never had a problem with that. On the other hand (IMHO) the Kahler's are bulky and cumbersome. I never have like them as much as the FR's, and (IMHO again) the Edge series are the best

jemplayer55 · #11 08-15-2006, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

the Edge series are the best

I love the Edge Pro's..... I have Floyds on an old Kramer Beretta and a Jackson Soloist and had a Kahler on a customized Strat and liked them both until I used an Edge Pro. Even the original Floyds don't come close to the Edge Pro's regarding bulk, ease of maintenance, staying in tune, etc.

Ironjose · #12 08-15-2006, 09:52 PM

the edge pro are great and also the lo-pro, the OFR is the real mccoy. but i havent got any experience with them the OFR that is, the ibz trems (the real ones) are the mother...
JJ

sniperfrommars1 · #13 08-16-2006, 09:40 AM

Kahler has never made a design to my knowledge that stays in tune better than a floyd. They have several compromising points in their engineering that allows the strings to bind, and turn, specifically since they dont have locking saddles. As soon as you do a pullup with one the sustain is completely dead as well, as theirs an inherent flaw in their pullup design. The big advantage they do have is allowing you to palm mute as heavily as you want, since the staddles are somewhat stationary on most of their designs. I personally have blocked all my kahlers and use them as fine tuning bridges now in tandem with locking tuners :P. I hate soldering strings to try to get them to stay in tune.

Guitar GeeK · #14 11-23-2009, 12:08 AM

Read this. Yes, ALL of it.
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f30/ka...t-a-97013.html
PS, Kahler is better.

Guitar GeeK · #15 11-23-2009, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sniperfrommars1

Kahler has never made a design to my knowledge that stays in tune better than a floyd. They have several compromising points in their engineering that allows the strings to bind, and turn, specifically since they dont have locking saddles. As soon as you do a pullup with one the sustain is completely dead as well, as theirs an inherent flaw in their pullup design. The big advantage they do have is allowing you to palm mute as heavily as you want, since the staddles are somewhat stationary on most of their designs. I personally have blocked all my kahlers and use them as fine tuning bridges now in tandem with locking tuners :P. I hate soldering strings to try to get them to stay in tune.

You don't need to. GHS and SIT make strings that you don't need to solder.