LNG Finish Questin? - Page 3

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #31 10-09-2006, 02:13 AM

Thats not what he told me. He told me Ibanez purchased their neon colors from a paint company in California called Deglo colors. Besides, Ibanez is NOT a paint company, their a guitar company, they did not manufactuer their paint, they bought it and still buy it form a paint manufactuer.

I bought ALL the neon colors from Deglo, except the carotene orange, I got LNG, DY, SK and RFR and sent all of them to my buddies at PPG and they got the formulas for me. If I had only been aware of the Carotene Orange I could have gotten it too. Thats why I say my Neon colors are the closest you will find or get, b/c they are the actual neon colors that Ibanez used, or more techically the "Formula" the paint company who Ibanez bought their paint from from used. The paint I got was not mixed or matched by a person, the paint was ran through a prophet machine, which shoots a lazer at the paint which then bounces back into the machine then displays the formula required to make that color. So, as you can see, my paint would have been matched to an UNAMBERED color, not an ambered color on a guitar like you were trying to suggest earlier, b/c my paint was matched to the paint in the can, which has NO clear over it obviously, which means it was unambered, and was done by a lazer color matching machine, which doesn't make mistakes.

Rich · #32 10-09-2006, 02:20 AM

The production paint was HOK, maybe you should talk to JD again cause that's what he told me.

That's the original proto with radioactive [not correct] LNG.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #33 10-09-2006, 02:25 AM

The HOK is NOWHERE close to the color. Its WAY more neon, all of the colors are incorrect HOK has. The pink is too pink, the yellow is too bright and too greenish, (Its actually called chartreuse).

I know he's not lying about the paint being radioactive. Reason I know? B/c when I purchased the paint from Deglo it came with the MSDS product sheet which was about 7 pages long which CLEARLY states it has radioactive resins in it.

I know its not the proto color, or proto colors b/c I used to have a LNG and it was DEAD ON. The proto color you have above was WAY darker than the production color.

Rich · #34 10-09-2006, 02:29 AM

JD never lied about details like that, and they never shot a production color for distribution that was radioactive. And nobody ever said it was straight publicly available HOK neon green/pink/yellow.

Lefty Robb · #35 10-09-2006, 02:30 AM

wow, 4 hours later, you guys are still going at it!!!...LOL

You guys should just get on AIM, ICQ or somethin, or better yet, TeamSpeak!...

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #36 10-09-2006, 02:36 AM

Its not radioactive enough to matter as far as production goes. Its not as radioactive as a cell phone for example and they sell those don't they?? but it was radioactive, and it was used on the production models b/c the colors I bought from Deglo are a dead on match to the EVERY SINGLE NEON IBANEZ I've EVER owned, period. Regardless of what JD told u, I bought the paint from Deglo and its a DEAD on match to ALL the colors Ibanez had on the production models.....which tells me all I need to know.

**Ayrton** · #37 10-09-2006, 02:39 AM

Everyone take a deep breath and back away from the keyboard. After all we are just talking about paint, not the creation of the universe.

Rich · #38 10-09-2006, 02:39 AM

Yea, no chance they took those colors to HOK and had them mix up non radioactive paint to use for production. [just like you did with PPG]

Do you think you could ever type a whole response without capitalizing a whole bunch of words? It gets real tiring.

I'll write JD for confirmation, some week I haven't already bugged him twice.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #39 10-09-2006, 02:48 AM

Steve Vai's guitars were shot in the Deglo paint. And you can go check out his JEM777 LNG on his site and you will see it IS the desirable color everybody wants.

Regardless of what he says, HOK, Deglo, etc I know the paint he told me was the correct one, b/c it matched. He also wrote a book in 2002 about Deglo being the mfg.

Look, when it boils down to it it doesn't matter who made it, or makes it, b/c Deglo, HOK, PPG, Dupont, etc can all mix any color. All I'm saying is I used Deglo paint to match the colors, and it was dead on to all of my neon Ibanez's and My LNG at the time......ok, if they used HOK later so be it, fine, they may have sent it to HOK and have them make them a non radioactive version that they did not and do not to this day offer to the public, but the paint I got from Deglo back in the day was dead on, and I've never seen closer match. I'm sure HOK could do it, but they weren't the "Original" people who did the neon colors, Deglo was.

Rich · #40 10-09-2006, 02:52 AM

And why would he reveal it to you?

Then stop arguing about it.

Night.

**Ayrton** · #41 10-09-2006, 02:52 AM

Rich I know that photo you posted is real, but I just laugh everytime I see it. I swear that guy is holding a chibanez.

Rich · #42 10-09-2006, 02:55 AM

Whacky grip, no claw, Stratish guard, dots?!, funky green, it's got it all!

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #43 10-09-2006, 03:02 AM

He didn't just reveal it to me, but he revealed it to the WORLD.

Did I mention its also in the book he wrote in 2002. You don't have to take it from me, he says it himself in the book, so I guess your saying he's wrong.

Titled "Guitars.....Design, Production and Repair" by Jim Donahue copyright 2002.

Let me quote a sentence from page 51.......

"The main guitar Steve played was Florescent Green color, we made three colors first for the JEM777 model one was Lochness Green, Desert Sun Yellow and Shocking Pink all from a company in California Deglo colors."

This is the guitar he is referring to. The ONLY Lochness Green JEM777 on Steve's site and clearly states "An early Loch Ness Green Jem guitar". I think everyone will agree this is the color they think of when they think of LNG.

I'm done.