LNG Finish Questin? - Page 5

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #61 10-11-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayrton

Wow this thing got retarded fast...

You can thank JEMPLAYER for that, he's the one with all the hositility, running his mouth saying he wouldn't trust me to paint pencils, etc etc I don't remeber saying anything to him.....but why am I not suprised when he comes in and starts trying to start stuff? B/c he's done before.

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Originally Posted by jemplayer55

I like that lame excuse....You're a real "stand up" kinda guy! The kind of businessman I wouldn't trust to paint $0.02 pencils.

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Originally Posted by jemplayer55

LAME!

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Originally Posted by jemplayer55

You must be an EXTREME right wing Republican....

Is the all name calling & comments really necessary?

ibanezcollector · #62 10-11-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayrton

Wow this thing got retarded fast...

agreed the SCS threads usually do.. He does more harm than good..

SCS you do good work i will give you that much, credit where credit is due.. But these threads are not helping you much.. It is discrediting your abilitys and practices.

Sometimes its better to just be quiet and let customers come to you, than try to force this im the best, i got this you dont, I know this technique, it makes you come off as a pompous arrogant person some times. And that is never a good thing.

my 2 cents, and no intent on being rude so dont take it that way, just the way alot of your threads read.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #63 10-11-2006, 01:31 AM

I haven't said anything in this thread about my work being the best nor have I tried to force that in this thread, or tryed to get business in this thread, which your always accusing me of doing. If have tried to get any business in this thread so you are mistaken. The ONLY thing I have discussed in this thread is Neon colors, not once have I said I was the best, tried to force anybody into believing that I am, or made ANY kind of advertisement for someone to send their guitar to me. I don't tell anybody to come to me, nor have I sence you made the very same comment months ago.

Thread was fine til JEMPLAYER55 came in with his name calling and rude comments, as he also has done in ALL of my swirl threads.

ibanezcollector · #64 10-11-2006, 01:35 AM

SCS all im saying is this.. If someone posts a thread about paint or refinishing I can guarentee your right in it, and it usually never turns good. this is what im referring to. Especially when you first joined jemsite.

But when you read some of these threads it makes you look like a jerk sometimes.. Sorry but its true. Not saying you are but how it reads. And the constant bickering with Rich doesnt help you either. Yes you know your stuff. But Rich is the definative person on Ibanez. He has probably touched more bad Ibanez's than you have good.

Just relax... You are a good painter, we know that.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #65 10-11-2006, 01:46 AM

Well, lets someone call you a conspiarcist, extreme right wing republican, dishonest, not worthy of handling 2 cent pencils, critisize every guitar you post (that your obviously proud of) and you would probably get sick of it too, thats all I'm saying.

Yes, I am always in the paint related threads b/c thats what I do. If you were a master luthier you would probably always be in the tech section, or posting in there to questions. So of course someone who paints is going to post in paint related threads. It turns bad when people like JEMPLAYER55 come in there and start saying stuff like that, which really is uncalled for, thats personal. Altho me and Rich did debate on the color it never got rude, name calling, personal or turned bad, and alot of information came out of it. If someone came across this thread and was interested in the neon colors, in my opinion they would find it very informative, b/c I'll say this is probably the most in depth informative thread in regards to the history and origin of the Lochness Green paint or neon jems thats ever existed on this site, from the names of the paint companies Deglo, to Gen Gen, and all the other details regarding it. So in my opinion I don't think they thread has turned bad at all, but rather posted alot of very informative information about the subject, which is all this site is, a plethra of information on anything and everything one could possibly want to know about Ibanez.

Rich · #66 10-11-2006, 01:53 AM

We're both super headstrong and we are going to butt heads on occasion, especially when our knowledge is questioned. We both knew what we were talking about and I'm not going to argue who was more right [it was obviously me

] and as long as we can refrain from getting personal everything's cool.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #67 10-11-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ibanezcollector

SCS all im saying is this.. If someone posts a thread about paint or refinishing I can guarentee your right in it, and it usually never turns good. this is what im referring to. Especially when you first joined jemsite.

But when you read some of these threads it makes you look like a jerk sometimes.. Sorry but its true. Not saying you are but how it reads. And the constant bickering with Rich doesnt help you either. Yes you know your stuff. But Rich is the definative person on Ibanez. He has probably touched more bad Ibanez's than you have good.

Just relax... You are a good painter, we know that.

I don't mean to come off that way, I just can't stand it when people make negative comments like he did, whether it be about me, or my work. If they don't like something I painted thats fine, I understand everyone doesn't have the same tastes, but I think people can voice that in a respectuful way, as you've done, thank you, rather than saying stuff to me like "that looks Puke-tastic ; Awful looking Ibanez ; that think looks Nasty ; your an extreme right wing republican ; i would trust you with .02 pencils, that swirl sucks, etc etc comments like that just tick me off and don't need to be shared. If somone doesn't like something they can say it in a nice way, or at least not rudely, and I don't think thats much to ask. Nobody wants their work ran in the ground, and talked to rudely.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #68 10-11-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich

[it was obviously me

] and as long as we can refrain from getting personal everything's cool.

But is it really necessary to rub it in tho???

I already told you that you were right earlier, so all your doing now is like sticking the sword in and now your twisting it.

In all honesty tho I have learned alot from what you posted, as far as the information JD relayed to you, deglo situation, gen-gen, the radiactivity, Hoshino coming up with their own paint, etc Definitely probably stuff that has never been discussed on here before in regards to the LNG origin and history.

Lefty Robb · #69 10-11-2006, 02:11 AM

wow, I'm smellin' a locked thread with some infractions sprinkled on top....

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #70 10-11-2006, 02:12 AM

for what?

Lefty Robb · #71 10-11-2006, 02:13 AM

Nothing you did Bro...

Rich · #72 10-11-2006, 02:16 AM

Knife twists are always called for, the oportunities just don't come along often enough

I think I just long forgot the Gen Gen part of it and HOK stuck in my head because I used to use some of their lettering enamels, not that they're not famous enough to begin with and WTF is Gen Gen anyway, right? It probably [surely] came up long ago, on a previous forum light years and many server crashes removed.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #73 10-11-2006, 02:23 AM

I just got home about 2 hours ago from a Custom Painting class.....guess who the teacher was? Jon Kosmoski (Owner of House of Kolor) and guess what, on the break I went up to him, talked with him about suggestions he may have to help me with swirls, and I also asked him about Ibanez, and if he remembers if he was the one who supplied them with some paint, ever, especially neon colors. He said he never did any dealings with Ibanez and really didn't even know who they were, so that just reconfirms from the owner of HOK's mouth they were not the supplier to Ibanez, ever. Now repairs that were done by indivuduals who worked at Ibanez may have used HOK, but he knew he never supplied the actual company. But he said they bought all of their pigments for their neons still from a company calley Dayglo, not Deglo....could Deglo have changed their name to Dayglo?? He also said as of now the Neon Pink has been discontinued, b/c the pigment that is in it to create it is becoming scarce and their no longer going to be able to produce it, so if you want some you better buy it up b/c whats left is all theirs going to be, no more neon pink from HOK. So tomorrow I'm going to go ahead and buy a couple gallons to put up, b/c I don't know where else I could get neon base coats from besides them. PPG or none of the other paint manufacturers I know of have neon pink.

Rich · #74 10-11-2006, 02:28 AM

Mixed paint has shelf life, I'd buy the pigments so you could mix your own.

HUSA doesn't have the word Ibanez in it anywhere, and I doubt they were buying much quantity if all they were doing is resto's and repairs.

PatrickSimsCustomShopUSA · #75 10-11-2006, 02:32 AM

Idon't know if I could make it tho with just pigment...actually I don't know if they'll sell you just pigment since thats the whole reason thehir going to stop selling it, the rarity of that pigment. I've always heard she;f life begind the day its opened and exposed to air, so maybe I could just buy up alot in quart cans, and only open the cans as I need them. If they settled alot I should always be able to put them on the shaker.

What do you mean HUSA doesn't say Ibanez anywhere. Do you mean HUSA doesn't say HOK anywhere?