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Old 10-11-2007, 05:43 PM
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Lo Pro 7, piezo


I'd like to know: Is it possible to buy an Ibanez Lo Pro 7, piezo equipt?

Because I'd love to have one in my Universe. Also, what parts should it come with? Some kind of preamp?

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:56 PM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


Only way you will find one is to scavenge the parts off of a 2027, 2127, or 7CST. Remember, you need the board and guts as well not just the trem.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:40 AM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


Then, if all the planets are in alignment and you beat the other hundreds of people looking for a Lo-pro 7 with piezos, you'll have to deal with the scale issue as well.

Ibanez had to move the position of the bridge to maintain the correct scale of the guitar because of the saddle modification.

I called Chesbro about the saddles, and since I could find no part number, they can't be ordered. The good news is, all the sixxer versions I've seen for sale on 3bay have included all the electronics as well. Even if they didn't, you can buy the Ctrl-X stuff from LR Baggs. It's just those pesky, yet all too important saddles, that are the missing piece.

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Old 10-12-2007, 06:34 AM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


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Ibanez had to move the position of the bridge to maintain the correct scale of the guitar because of the saddle modification.

/rant
So if I would put an Lo Pro Piezo in my Uv, I'd have to move the studs to make it "right" again?

And it would be impossible to fit the Piezo saddles on a normal Lo Pro? or is the baseplate the same?

Thanks guys,

Colin
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Old 10-12-2007, 07:55 AM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


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Ibanez had to move the position of the bridge to maintain the correct scale of the guitar because of the saddle modification.
This is not true. Yes, the piezo elements make the saddles longer than standard lo pro saddles, but the string contact point has moved forward (from the part containing the string clamp to the part that is screwed onto the trem baseplate) to compensate this.



In theory, if you manage to somehow get ahold of the piezo saddles and all the electronic guts you need, then yes, it is possible to install the piezos in your universe. You might even be able to squeeze the needed 9v block under the pickguard, making additional routing unnessecary. There was a thread not long ago from someone successfully retrofitting a piezo edge pro (not lo-pro edge, but most of the procedure will be the same) into his BRMR that way.

edit: I found it.
http://www.jemsite.com/forums/showth...ght=piezo+brmr

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Old 10-13-2007, 01:19 AM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


Yeah, I saw the BRMR mod (which is beautiful).

The LR Baggs rep told me about the bridge positioning, and another Ibanez player/collector has confirmed this. Are you sure it's not true, or are you assuming it isn't because of the BRMR mod?

Not sure about the baseplate. Maybe Rich can chime in here and shed some light.
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Old 10-14-2007, 11:59 AM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


I am sure, I got a standard lo pro and the piezo version here and compared them. it also has been discussed a few months ago.
One member on these boards, gitarrero, also did the swap the other way around - he needed a double edge trem, so he bought a used RG520X, took out the trem and swapped it with an original edge - which, to my knowledge, worked great.
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


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I am sure, I got a standard lo pro and the piezo version here and compared them. it also has been discussed a few months ago.
One member on these boards, gitarrero, also did the swap the other way around - he needed a double edge trem, so he bought a used RG520X, took out the trem and swapped it with an original edge - which, to my knowledge, worked great.

Thanks guys, this is great info.


Do any off you might know if there is a difference between the hardware off a six and a seven string version? I mean, would it be possible to connect seven piezo saddles to the six string version preamp board, etc?

If so I'd might have to look for two normal six string versions, since it probably will be easier to hunt those down.

Thanks again,

Colin
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Old 10-15-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


horst-

I'm not talking about differences in the bridge base, but rather, the position of the bridge in the body. I'm also not saying it won't work, but rather that it may change the scale length of the guitar.

ME-

There's no difference in the electronics between the six and the seven that I know of (I have both versions). Just one extra saddle to wire into the snake that feeds the Ctrl-x preamp.

You're going to need 800-900 dollars or more to pick up two of them. Best of luck.
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


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horst-
I'm not talking about differences in the bridge base, but rather, the position of the bridge in the body. I'm also not saying it won't work, but rather that it may change the scale length of the guitar.
The bridge base and the position of the string contact point relative to the trem studs is the same on double edge and lo pro edge trems, allowing a direct swap without intonation issues.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:36 AM
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Re: Lo Pro 7, piezo


I'm not going to argue with you about it. I've never swapped them, so I don't know. I only know what I was told by LR Baggs.
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