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Old 07-05-2002, 06:46 AM
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Lo-Pro Edge Bridges..whats so good?


Ok, bad way of asking...haa

But seriously, what's so good about the bridge? I'm thinking of swapping my awesome lo-trs ( ) with a lo-pro edge.....but...what the difference other than tuning stability?

Btw, can i actaully swap it? does the cavity fit in the first place?
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Old 07-05-2002, 07:11 AM
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the Lo-Pro Edge (and Edge as well) is the best tremolo ever, if you're looking for perfect stability (even for months), sensitivity, dive/pull-back range, lack of squeaks &amp; noises (if well setup), arm stability with no play at all, fluidity, flutter and reliability.

if you ever seen what Vai does with it, you'll have no doubts.

some prefer the original Floyd, some others prefer the Edge/Lo-Pro Edge: the choice is yours.

and yes,
the Lo-Pro Edge will fit the TRS cavity, but you might need to file a couple corners in the routing. it's a minute job, and it wont ruin the routing.

JUST DO IT!
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Old 07-05-2002, 08:10 AM
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Well, being somewhat of a newbie (under a year) to the world of whammy gymnastics...

I had previously goofed around on a friend's Lo-TRS and decided not to use it as a gig back-up because even a slight flutter put it out of tune. Plus, even though it's a supposed low-profile trem, it still digs in and (for me) gets in the way.

Moving to the lo-Pro last November redefined my opinions of trem-equipped guitars. This one was very ergonomic (its very low profile kept out of the way, with minimal pitch alteration from resting your hand on it), and it has tuning stability to the extend of being boring; bearing in mind that each time I played my other guitar (Yamaha Pacifica 512 - old style trem) I had to tune it at least once.

I've never used an Original Floyd Rose before, but I'm assuming that a newer version can only be improved in some respect.

Try it. You might like it.

Nick
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Old 07-05-2002, 08:47 AM
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You might like it.
...you WILL!
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Old 07-05-2002, 10:46 AM
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Well, without starting a huge debate...

ALL double-locking trems, properly setup, will remain in tune when locked down.

I've never had a tuning problem on any double-locking system (with the exception of my gold LOPRO on my RG1200, which turned out to be a dull knife edge). The main difference in the systems is the feel of the units, which is entirely subjective.

I personally think Edges and LoPro Edges have an incredibly smooth feel, where OFR style bridges seem kinda stiff. Also, a lot of us do not like the way OFR style bars attach to the base of the unit - the Ibanez system is very nice with no sloppiness.

Hope this helps you.

~d~
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Old 07-05-2002, 10:58 AM
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This is totally my opinion, but...

I've played an original Floyd Rose...like hand made by Rose himself.
And pretty much most of the actual Floyd versions since then...and
some bastards there-of.

IMHO, the original Hand Made Floyd absolutly *sounded* the best.
I honestly can't say how or why...but it was the holy grail of bridge
tone. The only thing that I recall that sounded better, was when I played
on of Eddy Van Halens guitars...what he did was to put a wood block
in the trem cavety (backside) that would block the trem from moving up
at all. He could still dive bomb, he just wouldn't be able to pull up.
That added more sustain and tone, but sacrificed the pulls (which he
just did by hand anyhow).

As for the Edge and the Lo-Pro Edge. I have yet to feel any trem that
can be adjusted so varibly (hard/soft fluttery/stiff whatever), and still
come back to being rock solid centered. That was one downfall of the
Floyd, was that it was obvious when you bumped it at all. Made me want
a stop tailpiece for rythem...

I'm not yet sure which I prefer, the Edge or the Lo-Pro Edge, but I'm
looking into swapping them from one guitar to another in my collection to
see which works best with which....heh...lots of work ahead of me...
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Old 07-05-2002, 11:54 AM
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ALL double-locking trems, properly setup, will remain in tune when locked down...
...except the TRS!
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Old 07-05-2002, 01:32 PM
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the original Hand Made Floyd...
hand made?
was it actually hand made? how ignorant am i?!?
can you tell me more about?
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Old 07-05-2002, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nuno
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ALL double-locking trems, properly setup, will remain in tune when locked down...
...except the TRS!
INCLUDING the TRS. I've a buddy who has one on his MAIN GIGGING axe. He tunes it weekly when he changes strings. It is as stable as the LoPros on my guitars, but he hates the trem bar feel due to the sloppiness of the mounting collar.

We've been through this on this board before - it's a feel issue.
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Old 07-07-2002, 12:36 PM
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I doubt this point has ever seen the light of day as it's totaly subjective and completely cosmetic... but dammit, the whammy bars on TRS's are too bent!!! they just look -excuse the phrasing- sh*tty... They come loose way too easy, meaning satch style weird lead sections like bits of Surfin' become impossible... also, doing pull ups of pinch harmonics becomes hard as it is too difficult to quickly react to hitting the harmonic and pulling the bar as one has to angle his hand weirdly to get hold of it... perhaps thats just me, but it's somethink that really annoys me about the TRS, that, and on the JS100's its in chrome!!! YUCK!!! KEEP CHROME TO THE CHROME BOYS!!!

KeV

PS. Does anyone else think that chrome is the cheapest looking hardware???
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Old 07-07-2002, 02:31 PM
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I think Chrome looks good when it's appropriate, I think it looks great on the JS 1-6 series, but I think mainly it's to do with getting it matched to the rest of the guitars looks.
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Old 07-08-2002, 04:05 AM
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i like black hardware exclusively.
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Old 07-08-2002, 09:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin Brigden
bars on TRS's are too bent!!! they just look -excuse the phrasing- sh*tty... They come loose way too easy, meaning satch style weird lead sections like bits of Surfin' become impossible... also, doing pull ups of pinch harmonics becomes hard as it is too difficult to quickly react to hitting the harmonic and pulling the bar as one has to angle his hand weirdly to get hold of it...
True! But that bending on the TRS has also benefits.. I can do MUCH deeper divebombing with the TRS bar than on my lo-pro..
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Old 07-08-2002, 02:55 PM
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I've noticed that the angle of the Lo-Pro Edge arm isn't bent drastically and since the bridge is wedge-shaped, the tip of the bar is not as distant from the body than a flat-bridged trem may be. Sometimes I'll set my bridges back a little more so they appear more recessed and flat. This sacrifices a little "up" for more "down". I vary that a lot. It was mostly an appearance thing at first and it turns out that I really like that. Others I leave normal.

I love the Edge and Lo-Pro Edge. I think they are the most reliable (in many respects) licensed by Floyd Rose trem on the market.
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Old 07-08-2002, 02:59 PM
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You all know you can bend the bars into whatever shape you want right?
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