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Old 03-27-2007, 08:45 PM
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long story and need help with trem


today i went to guitar center to get some new strings and i come back home with them i encountered a problem. the stupid trem fell in to deep and the springs just held it tightly to the guitar when i took off the strings. then it wouldnt stay aligned on the studs and then i just decided maybe if i put the new strings on it will align back up again. that didnt work cuz the trem started to rise while tuning the strings. then i loosened the strings and then a saddle slipped forward. i tightened the saddle and check all of the others. i returned to putting on and tuning the strings again but then there was a buzzing sound and the trem still didnt align. i thought the buzzing sound was coming from this bar thing that is held by two screws (i dont know what its called) touching the strings. so i loosened that and it still buzzed. then i took the springs out and tried to put it back together all lined up and everything tightened and it wouldnt stay aligned.

so its been about 2 1/2 hours working on trying to fix the f'in stupid p.o.s. and im not in a good mood anymore. so any idea how to fix it or should i just take it in somewhere? is something broken?
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Old 03-27-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: long story and need help with trem


Welcome to the world of floating bridges! There's a huge section over at Ibanez Rules on how to set your guitar up http://www.ibanezrules.com/tech/setup/index.htm
Failing that, take it to someone who can set it up for you. Also, in future I'd probably change 1 string at a time and retune each time. That should help until you're more used to setting up your guitar
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Old 03-28-2007, 12:38 AM
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Re: long story and need help with trem


alright ill check it out...i tried one string at a time and that didnt do really anything different.
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Old 03-29-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: long story and need help with trem


alright the problem with the trem not aligning up right is solved and now im having trouble tuning the strings. can aynone give me some hints. i read the guides but i dont understand it completely. ill keep trying to understand it but can anyone add anything or help me out with a hint or something.
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Old 03-29-2007, 08:00 PM
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Re: long story and need help with trem


Nix,

Do this when attempting to tune the strings on your double-locking tremolo-equipped guitar:

1. loosen the locking nut (located before the first fret, the rectangular shaped area with 3 allen screws on), you can also remove the 3 screws and the pads until you get the guitar tuned right. If you decide to remove the pads and screws, remove one pad and screw at a time and place them somewhere safe in the same fashion as it was placed on the guitar

2. Loosen the fine tuners on the tremolo itself (round screws) so they are at half of their height (this will allow you to fine tune the guitar by once you have locked the nut)

3. plug your guitar into the tuner and commence to tune each string

4. insert your whammy bar into the tremolo (make sure the bar goes all the way in)

5. proceed to raise the bar all the way up gently and bring it back to neutral position (this is the easiest way to stretch the strings with a double-locking tremolo)

6. Check the tune on each string to see if the string needs to be retuned

7. Repeat steps 5 & 6 until the guitar holds tune even after pulling on the bar all the way up gently, though you can use a little "BAM!" (emeril style) if you'd like

8. Once the guitar holds tune even after pulling on the bar or doing a divebomb and returning to neutral position, proceed to lock the nut by placing back the pads along with the allen screws

9. Hand tighten every screw and line the pads the same way they were before. Then, proceed to torque it with the allen wrench that came with the guitar. When torqueing the allen screw, you don't have to super tighten it, tighten gently until the screw is tight enough (think of screwing a screw into bare wood, you don't want to tighten it so much that you strip the wood, right?, same concept)

10. check the tune on the guitar (it should still be tuned)

11. Play a chord and pull the whammy bar up a couple of times and do a couple of divebombs. If the guitar holds tune, then you're good to go and you can stop here. If it went out of tune a little, then proceed to the next step

12. Remember when you loosened the fine tuners to half their height? At this point the guitar is going to require minimal tuning to get it tuned, and that's what the fine tuners are for. Let's say your low E string went a little flat, then you would want to screw down the fine tuner to raise the pitch of the low E string. If the low E string went sharp, then you would loosen the fine tuning screw some more until you got it tuned


I hope these steps help you in getting your guitar tuned. Please let us know if you have any other questions.

Jimmy
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Old 03-30-2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: long story and need help with trem


well i dont have a trem bar right now cuz waiting for it to be delievered and thats a whole other story why im kinda annoyed with my guitar situation right now...anyways i can get 4 string in tune and then the trem angle starts to rise. how can i fix this? by the way thanks for the info jb4674.
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