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Old 02-09-2010, 03:26 PM
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Low fret repair


I've found that the 1st fret on my S is a little low, and I don't want to have to raise the action. Are there any ways of solving the problem without having to pay a load for someone to fix it? The fretboard is bound, if that counts for anything.
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Old 02-09-2010, 07:19 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


If its only the first fret you could find a luthier to replace just it, that shouldnt cost too much.
If its more than just the first fret you might need to get the nut lowered, again, that shouldnt cost too much either.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:13 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


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I've found that the 1st fret on my S is a little low, and I don't want to have to raise the action. Are there any ways of solving the problem without having to pay a load for someone to fix it? The fretboard is bound, if that counts for anything.
If the 1st fret is low, wouldn't the string be high? If you meant 'the 1st string is low' then the nut needs to be raised. Locking nuts need a shim to raise them and a conventional nut needs to be replaced.
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Old 02-09-2010, 09:50 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


Just take in your guitar to a luthier and have your frets leveled! Shouldnt cost that much
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Old 02-10-2010, 01:01 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


When I say the first fret is low, I mean the first fret is low. When I play it, the string rattles on the second fret. Nowhere else is there any buzz.

How much roughly is a total level? It might help me get a few precious micrometres out of my action
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Old 02-10-2010, 03:30 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


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When I say the first fret is low, I mean the first fret is low. When I play it, the string rattles on the second fret. Nowhere else is there any buzz.

How much roughly is a total level? It might help me get a few precious micrometres out of my action
this truthfully happened to me. I had my frets re crowned and the action adjusted and now I literally HATE playing my guitar because the frets are way too low for my taste (they had to file a lot of fret away it seems) so I payed money for the fret work when I just should've got a new fret job instead.
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Old 02-10-2010, 05:31 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


What didn't you like about the frets being low? Does it affect how you feel the frets as you go up and down the neck or is it a case of fingers being closer to the actual board?
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What didn't you like about the frets being low? Does it affect how you feel the frets as you go up and down the neck or is it a case of fingers being closer to the actual board?

With any guitar from any brand 99% of the time the frets are never leveled. You should always take a guitar in to get a setup after purchasing. Like I said, see a luthier about it he'll most likely level the frets out and your guitar will be good to go and if thats not the case then he'll tell you what yuh need. It costs me around $20usd to have my frets leveled and polished I dont think thats expensive
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:19 AM
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Re: Low fret repair


Hi guys, isn't crowning also very important?


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Old 02-11-2010, 01:16 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


Fret level and polish it is then!
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:02 PM
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Hi guys, isn't crowning also very important?


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crowing is mostly for feel (also intonation), not to get rid of buzz. plus, you would never crown a fret randomly, it's almost always done after a level when the top of the fret has a flat spot.
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:28 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


Right. The only place I can find in and around Surrey is Feline Guitars in Croydon, and they want to charge me at least 100 for it. Does anyone one else know of any places which won't cost that much?
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Old 02-15-2010, 06:42 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


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When I say the first fret is low, I mean the first fret is low. When I play it, the string rattles on the second fret. Nowhere else is there any buzz.

How much roughly is a total level? It might help me get a few precious micrometres out of my action
What I do in my shop for this kind of thing is to use a fret nipper - used for pulling frets - and pull the low part of the fret up, and then use ca glue to set it in place. On the road I have used razor blades to lift frets by working them in between the fret board and bottom of the fret and then glue it as described above (i.e., if the fret was hit on a cabinet or stage, etc). If needed I will then level, crown and polish the fret. Crowning restores the fret shape as leveling widens the crown and can negatively affect intonation and playability.
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Old 11-02-2010, 01:51 PM
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Re: Low fret repair


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What I do in my shop for this kind of thing is to use a fret nipper - used for pulling frets - and pull the low part of the fret up, and then use ca glue to set it in place.
I would not do that personally. Thats cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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