Nuts to Ibanez Chrome Nuts

Devine · #1 05-30-2001, 10:20 PM

Hi guys-

* * * * As some of you might recall, my on-going ChromeBoy saga seems to be at an end. *Recently, my third, yes 3rd, chrome Ibanez nut stripped; not the screws, but the threads inside the nut itself. *Needless to say, I am less than pleased. *

* * * I've asked before, but never really gotten a response: has anyone with chrome nuts had similar troubles? *If so, you might try a Fender Floyd Rose nut or something similar; Fender uses a sturdier metal, possibly steel to mill the part. *

* * *Anyway, I'm sending Ibanez the most recent casualty and a nasty note. *Hopefully they'll apologize.

-Devin

Rich · #2 05-30-2001, 10:26 PM

Dude, what the He!! are you doing to your nuts?!?! I haven't stripped a nut yet. Ibanez does not make the part, your complaint will fall on the wrong party.

Kevan · #3 05-30-2001, 10:49 PM

I've stripped out ONE nut in 13 years of playing guitars with FR-type trems on them. * The one I stripped was an HRR Str*t. :-)

If you're using more than your thumb and one finger to tighten the nut, you're using too much torque- WAY too much. *You're changing strings; not a tire.

As Rich stated, a nasty note will get you less than zero. *I think a mini-torque wrench with a 3mm socket is in order...or have a 1st grader lock down the nut. *:-)

**jemsite** · #4 05-30-2001, 10:56 PM

please do NOT start another new topic about this.

Emailing anyone a nasty letter will only burn bridges between yourself and a resolution. My advice is rethink that.

Regardless of who makes the "nut" or pressure pads, we all expect the parts to last and maintain their finish. 35+ Ibanez guitars later i have not run into troubles yet(cosmo black, chrome, black or gold).... glen

Vaibanez · #5 05-30-2001, 11:41 PM

Devine,
Give Rich back his Ingersol-Rand 400psi air ratchet!!!

I've owned Ibanez guitars for 15 years and have never stripped a locking nut or bridge saddle screw.

Then again, I don't have forearms like Popeye either...

J>

jay ratkowski · #6 05-31-2001, 01:13 AM

Glen doesn't have a problem with it, therefore, it can't possibly be a problem.

Seriously though... you don't need to clamp the string into a pancake... just enough tension to keep it locked.

I've never had a problem on locking nuts... even $5 ones found in "bargain bins."

reguv760 · #7 05-31-2001, 05:20 AM

I've stripped the top nut that holds the E and A string on the original and the replacement locking nut on my old RG470. First, I had to order the whole locking nut from All parts. I went for a chrome one cause I wanted to try a different color scheme on it. It stripped within a couple of weeks. After searching this whole city, Performance Guitars had the exact locking nut for an Ibanez as most floyd rose locking nuts have different dimensions and nut placements. Anyhow, the guys from PG replaced the (costly) nut in no time but the technician told me to lock the nuts with an allen wrench upwards, rather than lengthwise while maintaining enough torque and pressure.
Hope this helps.

Reg

Skaught · #8 05-31-2001, 09:45 PM

I know this sounds stupid, but you might wanna make sure you're using a 3mm (metric) allen wrench, if you tried an Imperial allen wrench that sort of fit, you might be too small (thus stripping the screw head)

This will only help screw heads, not threads obviously

Devine · #9 06-01-2001, 01:38 AM

Whoa. Calm. *First, Ibanez deserves a nasty note for not carrying the correctly-sized nuts to fit the JS-10th; Satriani requested a 43 mm nut when 42 is standard for whatever reason. *Long and short, Ibanez does not continue to stock them, yet the ones I did received were passed off as the part in question. *As far as stripping goes, well, I can't say that I don't tighten, but I certainly do not pancake. *"Finger tight" in my experience with this guitar is too loose. *Fact is, I don't have a clue as to what is correct; I've never had the tremolo stay in tune correctly, at least not to my liking, which is less than or equal to one cent off. *Between the two techs who have worked on this instrument, I can safely say something is wrong; what that is remains to be seen. *Other than that, I know the nuts have been stripping; one tech has replaced three in the past month, so I know I'm not alone. *I've been posting to the forum on off regarding this problem and have received lots of help from certain parties who know who they are. *Unfortunately, nothing seems to work. *This new Fender nut is markedly stronger than the Ibanez nut. *I won't know how well it works for a few months, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Some say sell the guitar; I've considered it. *The finish, the versatility and the mystery keep me hanging on. *Plus, short of a custom, no guitar that I've come across does what this one will. *Word.

-Devin

Rich · #10 06-01-2001, 01:51 AM

You've definately had your share of frustration with this one, that I know. There was some miscomunication though, the JS is a 42mm nut not 43mm. That's why they don't have it in 43mm, but they have 70 of them in 42

I still haven't stripped or had to replace a nut because it was stripped, and I'm talking alot of guitars here. I think most of us that haven't stripped a nut can't figure out why you've gone through 3

I wouldn't mind having all the hardware made out of plated Titanium, much stronger and lighter weight. But what it would add to the bottom line ......

**jemsite** · #11 06-01-2001, 02:18 AM

Quote:

First, Ibanez deserves a nasty note for not carrying the correctly-sized nuts to fit the JS-10th

Um... i heard once that it is easier to catch bees with honey than vinegar. Use that info as you see fit... glen

Devine · #12 06-01-2001, 11:13 AM

Glen-

Um... i heard once that it is easier to catch bees with honey than vinegar. Use that info as you see fit... glen

Been there, done that; I received a nut that didn't fit; read the sentences following the one you cited.*"Nasty" isn't really all that nasty, more like accusatory. *I'd post the letter, but I didn't save it. *It summarized most of my posts and incuded a few more fifty cent words and an offer to send one casualty for the luthiers to inspect. *I also sent copies of the receipts from the two techs who have worked on the guitar; I doubt they'll do anything with that, and by your barometer, they shouldn't. *I respectfully disagree and have told them so.
* Also, in regards to your reply in "Comments to Ibanez", how often to you unlcok the nut on your DBK? *The ChromeBoy is my number one, so it endures considerable handling.

Rich-

* * I'm not too sure about the 42mm nut. * A 42mm nut does not cover the space at the top of the neck, I think it's called the "setting". *My original nut was larger than the one Ibanez sent, which is a 42mm nut. *Regardless, I think I've put a close to this chapter.

-Devin

(Edited by Devine at 10:25 am on June 1, 2001)

**jemsite** · #13 06-01-2001, 11:22 AM

i'm lost here. *If they sent the wrong nut then welcome to reality... mistakes happen. If the nut does NOT fit your guitar then there is magic going on, because ibanez did not make a custom one for your particular guitar. The bottom line is that "problem resolution" can be difficult and a burden to the customer. I know people fail to grasp this but it's reality these days, regardless of Burger King's mantra "have it your way". Either way the resolution to this problem seems very simple, assuming you have the skills to install the nut yourself. Good luck... glen

bluenote · #14 06-01-2001, 11:25 AM

measure the nut width that you need exactly and then email me...i may be able to help you out with an original steel nut

Rich · #15 06-01-2001, 02:12 PM

42mm for sure. Imagine the egg on my face when I was bitching to Ibanez about not stocking 43mm chrome nuts for the 10th's. They straightened me out quick.