RG570 Trem problem

shader · #1 09-14-2003, 03:40 PM

I have had an RG570 for about two weeks now... i have already broken around 7-8 strings on it, from going wild on the trem. Is this normal? I've seen Vai do some major trem abuse with no problem... Is there a problem with the trem (Ibanez Edge), or maybe the strings (I'm using a bunch of SIT strings that i got real cheap at a sale a while ago)

Rich · #2 09-14-2003, 04:26 PM

Not enough information.

Where are they breaking?
Which strings are breaking?
What guage?
Is it properly setup?
How many steps of pullup are you getting on the G?
Is it getting played 10 minites a day or 10 hours?

And bottom line, there's a reason a touring artists has his strings changed every night

shader · #3 09-14-2003, 09:06 PM

They all are breaking at the saddle.

Every string has broke at least once.

I use 10's on mine - i have 4 springs in the trem cavity

I set it up after changing the strings the first day of having it, the trem is at the right angle and everything

The most pullup i can achieve on this is a major 2nd... (I was pretty disappointed after reading about pullups of a fourth or more on the ibanez FR trems)

I play 2-4 hours a day on average

Rich · #4 09-14-2003, 09:24 PM

Even the wounds? Are you playing this guitar or just wankin on the whammy for 4 hours straight?

If you want more pullup it has to be setup for it, but in your case I would recomend against it

Scott 74 · #5 09-15-2003, 03:47 AM

Check the saddles to make sure there are not any burrs in the grooves that the strings rest in. If so you will need to file them down(the burrs), but which size, and type file you would use I don't know off the top of my head

Ibateur · #6 09-15-2003, 04:00 AM

Maybe you have to start slowly, let the strings stretch first.

Since it seems that you ALWAYS have new strings, if you start (as Rich says) wanking on the whammy bar, the "sudden" stresses may be too much

Rich · #7 09-15-2003, 04:26 AM

Come on guys, this is just a simple case of metal fatigue. Evidently shader just got a trem that pulls up and is giving it quite a workout

Not that I wouldn't suspect the strings, the composition of the steel will determine how many times you can bend it in one spot, under tension, before it snaps. No matter what the composition, it's still going to break sometime. I'm amazed at what some people think fine wire will stand up to

DirtyBird31 · #8 09-15-2003, 11:12 PM

Are the strings themselves BREAKING, or are they just popping out of the trem? Find the saddles of the offending strings and investigate for burrs. Just use common sense and investigate.

Eddie B · #9 09-25-2003, 11:45 AM

Actually, if you're new to floating trems, and it sounds like you are (I don't know anyone who got a hold of their first floating trem and didn't give it a serious workout) then what dirty bird suggested may very well be the case. I had that happen a lot on my old s540fm. The guy that had it before me wore out the saddle nuts and they didn't like to lock down, causing the strings to let go whenever I used the bar in an over-enthusiastic manner. Check to see if they're actually breaking or if they're just slipping out. Either way, you know you do have to wrk your strings in slowly before you go crazy on them. There's some excellent tech manuals here for string-stuff.

MicJustMic · #10 10-02-2003, 09:15 PM

What string is that 2nd on?

G?

If you're measuring by the high E, that's about all you can expect. More than that and you'll be breaking strings even more often than you are.

I would try different strings.

Also, double check your setup, it's easy to THINK you have it setup correctly, and not.

When pulling the bridge up, you shouldn't pull so much as to have the strings hit the saddle screws, if you are hitting the screws and still don't have a 4th on the G string, your bridge is angled to far back.

If you notice that this is where your strings are breaking, there's your problem.

Mic

cusplaya · #11 04-22-2005, 08:50 PM

I'm gonna have to go with the metal fatigue theory on this one. There are so many things that can contribute that it's impossible to determine the cause with so little info. The ph factor of your skin if your palm is resting on the saddles a lot can have an effect. It sounds to me like your getting plenty of use out of your strings. I think your just pushing them as far as they will go and then some. I do it all the time. Beauty of it is that you can just unlock the nut, wind down some slack and put the end of the broken string right back in and go back to playin in just a few minutes.

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