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post #16 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-20-2005, 10:10 PM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

I had a Sustainiac Stealth Plus installed in my 2550 last week too. Its back at the shop now. For some reason we can't identify, theres a lot of grunge in the signal when the sustainiac is OFF.

Anyone have an idea what would cause that? Hit the sustainer and all the garbage in the signal disappears completely. It makes no sense to me.

I'm not an expert when it comes to wiring by any means tho. Hell I'm not even a beginner....
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post #17 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-20-2005, 10:20 PM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

i think it's a wiring job problem... i've read about that before.
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post #18 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 04:37 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

From my understanding of the installation, there are certain areas you have to be careful of. For example, on the 10 pin connector you must wrap the violet and gray wires together to allow them to cancel any induction they may create (The same as the twisted pairs in a Cat 5 Network cable). Another important step is that if the back of your pickguard has a foil cover, you must remove the foil around the sustainiac in a 1 inch radius to eliminate hum.

Last but not least, you must keep the driver wires away from the pickup wires. This is very difficult as they get wired to the same places, but try all the same.

Don't forget in the kit they give you a small piece of metal to clip onto the sustainiac. This can be repositioned to eliminate squeal a little bit.

Owen.
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post #19 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 05:07 AM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

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Installed. I never ever want to do one again. But it rocks :-) Okay, well, I'll do my wolfgang next, but it rocks. It's kinda tingly when it's on, like having a vibrating phone in your hand, but "Whispering a prayer" is beautiful on it.

It's 12.30am in Ireland, so I'll write it all up tomorrow. Teaser bit on owenkelly.com so far.

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Pics dude !

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post #20 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 05:27 AM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

could you guys please post locations - there's about three of you that haven't done that. i like to know where fellow Jemsiters are from - it's cool to know which country or state you live in. thanks.
BTW- welcome to Jemsite and i'm interested in seeing someone cut up a 7VWH for this operation - i'd be scared to death to route mine. i'd do it on an RG or something but i couldn't hack on Elvis. you are a brave man!
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post #21 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 11:50 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

Okay, the guide is finished. I wanted to post a gratuitous pic of my Axe, 4x12, footboard and rack, but I'll have to wait until my 4x12 is out of the band van, or until I'm at a gig and can take pics :-)

Enjoy!

http://owenkelly.com/2005/09/sustain...jem-7-vwh.html

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Ps. Feedback is more than welcome!
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post #22 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 12:21 PM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

Wow, that a great tutorial. You should post on your site, a PDF or large JPG of the wiring diagrams, this may help others...

Good Job!
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post #23 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 12:59 PM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

Hey Ned78... why should i take the neck and bridge apart to route the body ??
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post #24 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 01:05 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

Well, it prevents sawdust getting into the bridge, and taking the neck off just reduces the potential damage it could get when you're constantly moving it around and holding a 200 degree soldering iron around that beautiful mother of pearl and abalone inlays :-)

Owen.
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post #25 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-21-2005, 02:14 PM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

Well thank you for the tutorial things dont seem so damn scary now.
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post #26 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-22-2005, 01:52 AM
 
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Very nice tutorial .

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post #27 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-22-2005, 04:44 AM
 
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How does the Sustainiac compare w/ Fernandes Sustainer ?


By the way great tutorial ned78, looks like a fun project.
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post #28 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-22-2005, 05:43 AM Thread Starter
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

I've only played a Fernandes sustainer in a shop in a Fernandes guitar factory install. The units seem similar, but the Sustainiac has a stronger pull on the strings when it's activated. Also, the Sustainiac is a smaller unit, making for a neat install. And it's available in white :-)

Owen.
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Re: Sustainiac Install

Sweet, I like the sound of that. Do you think the routing could be done with a dremel tool and a lot of paitence ?
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post #30 of 36 (permalink) Old 09-22-2005, 12:42 PM
 
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Re: Sustainiac Install

I have the sustainiac Stealth plus (not installed yet) But i think ouy can't coil tap de sustainiac passive pickup, am i wrong ? then why is the supersiwtch you installed ned ? as i understood from Alan Hoover you need to order the non plus kit and install a SC sized HB next to it to be able to coil tap.
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