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12-08-2006, 05:51 PM
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Toggle switchable volume cut?
Can a
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be used to lower output volume? Not necessarily kill it altogether, but maybe lower it 1/2 way or more?
Basically, I'd like to be able to flick a switch and go from dirty to slightly dirty clean.
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12-08-2006, 05:58 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
Put a switch and a resistor in line with the output jack.
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12-08-2006, 10:26 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
If you use a LP or similar 4 control guitar where a volume is wired to individual pups, you can set the volume and use the pickup selector to kill or dampen depending on how much. Just don't do it too much, because rapid selection with the switch overtime will overheat it and ruin it. Easy enough to replace though.
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12-08-2006, 10:30 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
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Put a switch and a resistor in line with the output jack.
Thats along the lines of what I was thinking.
What kind of resistor should I use?
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12-08-2006, 10:31 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
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If you use a LP or similar 4 control guitar where a volume is wired to individual pups, you can set the volume and use the pickup selector to kill or dampen depending on how much. Just don't do it too much, because rapid selection with the switch overtime will overheat it and ruin it. Easy enough to replace though.
I never heard about it overheating like that, how does that work? (Im nhot being sarcastic here, Im being serious, after installing a bunch in my LPs I dont see how it would overheat)
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12-08-2006, 10:32 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
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I never heard about it overheating like that, how does that work? (Im nhot being sarcastic here, Im being serious, after installing a bunch in my LPs I dont see how it would overheat)
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12-08-2006, 10:36 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
no, that wouldnt do it
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I never heard about it overheating like that, how does that work? (Im nhot being sarcastic here, Im being serious, after installing a bunch in my LPs I dont see how it would overheat)
It was in some article I was reading about creating that stutter effect that said that the switch for the pups wasn't meant to take that kind of abuse for extended periods and gets messed up from the heat generated by quickly switching back and forth. Dunno if it's true, but it makes sense to me.
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12-08-2006, 10:45 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
no it doesnt, the thing that makes and breaks the connections doesnt really rub on anything. I can see the switch going bad because the part it pivots on wearing out, but not overheating
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12-09-2006, 12:10 AM
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no it doesnt, the thing that makes and breaks the connections doesnt really rub on anything. I can see the switch going bad because the part it pivots on wearing out, but not overheating
That's probably it then.
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12-09-2006, 06:46 AM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
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Thats along the lines of what I was thinking.
What kind of resistor should I use?
Find out the value of the pots on your guitar, probly 250K or 500K and get a resistor thats half the value.
Or try rolling off the volume to where you'd like the volume to cut down to when you switch and if its about 33% down then get a resistor thats a third of the value of your pot. Might be worth buying a few different value ones anyway just to see which you prefer, they dont cost alot anyway.
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12-09-2006, 09:40 AM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
Thats what I was looking for, thank you
Should a capacitor find its way into the mix somehow as well?
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12-09-2006, 12:21 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
Not really, a capacitor will only create a low pass filter. If this is what you want, there is a formula to work out the values and mathematics of it, its complex though.
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12-09-2006, 01:16 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
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I never heard about it overheating like that, how does that work? (Im nhot being sarcastic here, Im being serious, after installing a bunch in my LPs I dont see how it would overheat)
I'd pose that question to
Tom Morello
. He tends to abuse the toggle switch!
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12-09-2006, 01:39 PM
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Re: Toggle switchable volume cut?
Overheating, seriously? Man you would need some seriously powerful pickups to overheat a switch. Dont listen to that Jm1861, a switch and resistor is the way to go.
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