Tremsetter questions

[Arteus]

Im getting a tremsetter for my rg 350 dx (a hipshot one am i right?
Please correct if these following statements are true or false because I don't know:
1. When you break a string the rest stay in tune
2. When I tune up a string the rest wont drop in pitch
3. I can not hit the tremolo stick with my hand like vai does
4. The tremolo arm gets stiff

Thanks

[Racerx2k]

I had one on one of my guitars, years ago, but let me try to answer for ya:

1 - false. They will still go out.
2 - false. They will still change pitch.
3 - If you are talking about "warbles", then, yes, it will not wrable, anymore.
4 - If recall my action getting stiffer on pullups, because you now have the tremsetter to fight against.

The tremsetter seems more designed to aid in getting your trem to return to it's previous rested postition, and is not a cure-all. I didn't like it, so I removed it not too long after installation.
If someone can corraborate or dispute my statements, based on their experiences, kindly chime in and help our friend, here.

[scotte_za]

Arteus sounds like you should've ordered a tremol-no, that seems to fit the description. google it

[Arteus]

Well all those features were just thoughts, I really need something to help me return to 0 so a tremsetter is the way to go. I haven't ordered anything yet though

[Arteus]

Everyone says it gets stiff, but can i still like dive/raise and shake it at the same time?

[Awakened Sleeper]

I had one installed in my 1527, and I agree with all of Racerx2k's points above. Yes, you can stil dive/raise and shake, but it may require some more force depending upon how stiffly you've set it. Personally I didn't like it, and so I removed it.

[Racerx2k]

Yeah, I didn't dig it at all. No more warbles, and didn't solve the broken string issues. Still, if you have a tremol-no, you better have lucked out, and had it locked into position, before that string broke, otherwise it won't take care of that, either. Still, I MAY try the Tremol-no, for drop-d tunning cases, on some of my guitars. My latest project was set up for dive-only, to handle those situations, and does it well, but I miss the reverse-dives.

[Arteus]

well my real problem is my bridge not always returning to 0, ''feel'' is a luxury which i cannot afford to care about :P

[djohns74]

I have one on a crappy Kramer mutt with a piece of junk trem in it. The tremsetter, by itself, took the guitar from utterly unusable due to the complete lack of consistent return to zero to a guitar I now use on a very regular basis.

I do agree with Racerx2k's points, but allow me to clarrify a couple of things. If you completely remove the tension of one of the strings from the guitar (i.e., break one), that will be enough to throw the rest out of tune, yes. However, I find that I can, for example, change the low E string into and out of drop-D without affecting the rest of the strings. Also, I can tune the entire guitar down to Eb and back to standard with a TON less hassle than is required on any of my Edge-equipped guitars. Naturally, your results may vary.

I would never install a tremsetter in an Edge guitar, it just defeats the purpose in my mind. But for junky trems that get thrown out of tune as soon as you touch 'em, it's almost a must-have.

[Arteus]

Well actually i just found out i can't warble on my edge 3, when i try to warble all it does is go down then up 1 time, not shake a shake a like the ofr they have in the music shop. Nevertheless, im not a whammy bar abuser, warbles is not a must for me, functionallity is the main goal. If i can dive/raise and return to 0, thats all for me, no warbles fine, stiffer trem fine, clicking at neutral fine, the bridge working as it should YYAYYY since christmas i have been fiddle trisling with it and its the only way, yet again, FEEL is a luxury wich I canno't afford, so feel is none of my consern, functionallity is my prime goal. Thanks everybody

[Racerx2k]

I can warble on my Egde II, albeit not as much as my original Edge, but I still can. I think part of that has to do with less mass to the Edge III, than the Edge. Could also be due to the springs not quite broken in, too. That'll add to stiffness. Thought about changing out to a more stout trem block, and see if THAT helped with the total mass, thus aiding in warbles, plus sustain. Got too much on my hands right now, though. Better left for another time.

[Arteus]

So the pros/cons of a tremsetter:
Pros:
Perfect tune with the wildest raises/dives (you can raise with it installed right?
Cons:
No warbles and less smoth feel

correct me if im wrong

[Awakened Sleeper]

Sounds about right. That was certainly my experience.