Tuning Problems with Original Edge - The dumb tech didn't ge

[keith]

it was fine before i strung it up with 10's. The tech made the string tension too high so i relieved some of it while correcting the tremolo angle and tuning all the time. The tremolo angle is set right as far as I can see...and I manage to get things in tune fine. The problem is when I use the trem....it goes apocalyptically out of tune. What can I do and what else can I check?

[sixstringphoenix]

Go back to 9's.

Joking aside, I have no clue what's wrong. I don't have an Edge installed as of right now and from what I hear around here all the time, there's nothing more stable.



-Justin

[Rich]

Hmmmm, you made sure all the obvious things are tight correct?

[bachle7]

Did you check to make sure that the set-screws in the posts are tightened? *Before I knew they existed, my Edge would go out of tune when bending notes down. *I would have to hit the bar the other direction and it would be in tune again. *Those set screws are sneaky! *-Andy

[Big Job]

could the studs be loose?

[keith]

Well...the nut below the headstock is always locked stiff...as are the string posts in the trem [you know, the screws that hold each string down into the trem]. The only thing left as i see it is the studs one either side of the trem which adjust the action. But they shouldn't affect tuning, should they?

Could it be that somehow one of the two tension setting screws holding the springs in the body cavity is set tighter than the other? If so, do you have any idea of how to determine which is which and how to adjust?

I just hope it isn't worn knife edges

[Rich]

Reffering to the set screws inside the trem posts, tighten them. (although they effect tuning they won't effect it 'horredously')

[ANOVA]

Hrmm...Maybe try swapping the positions of the springs in the back...Or check to make sure the trem is properly resting how it should be...I would recommend taking the trem off and putting everything back piece by piece...It just might solve your problem...Also like Rich said make sure everything is tight and tight can be...Check those knife edges too :P

-Mike

(Edited by ANOVA at 11:49 am on Aug. 28, 2001)

[Two hands31]

I'm surprised no one even giggled at how many times the words "screw", "stiff", "posts" and "body cavity". lol *

[keith]

Oh and another thing occured to me. When I had 9's on it...i would tune the first 5 strings and the last one would then usually be in tune all by itself, but after putting in 10's, I tune the first 5 and then the last string still isn't tuned well...usually it's flat. I may think I'll check the spring tension/tremolo angle again and see everything's in place.

But first on the list is a 3 hour bus trip to buy me some strings. I've broken my low E and I have no strings left.

[Devine]

Hi Keith-

* * I had similar trouble for a long time: *I used .11-.49's and could not find a way to keep my Edge in tune. *Nut problems complicated the situation. *Even after switching back to .09-.42's, no luck. *This summer, I sent the guitar to Ibanez and they worked some magic. *My Edge works, but I don't know why. *I have yet to restring the guitar and I pray that it continues to work when I do so.

-Devin

PS - how about stretching the strings? *It takes a really long time to do correctly.

[keith]

Hehe...the strings have been in place for months now.

[mike777]

Stretching strings.......pull up on your trem arm in the spirit of nonsense-or just do a lot of bends for at least ten minutes. * I always do a bunch of nonsense stuff with the bar when I first get a new guitar to stretch the strings and break in the springs in the back. *I also usually add a 4th spring in the back. *As far as your tuning problem-has your guitar's action ever been adjusted while all of the string tension was still on? *Turning the posts with that kind of pressure dulls the edge of the pivot points on the main plate of the trem. *When the bar is used, it won't always return to the exact same spot. *Edge tremolos stand up to that very well, however, other bridgeslike the TRS-style (from what I've heard more than once) suffer almost instantly.

[DemonicMinor]

How many springs you got in there?? I use 10's in all of my guitars, and I found that I need to have 4 springs in the body cavity... I have no problems with tuning.
-Bradius

[keith]

Yes, the action was adjusted with the strings in full tune at least twice, on both occasions it being stringed up with 9's. However that did not seem to affect the tuning stability of the trem.

I'm currently using 3 springs.