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Old 07-17-2001, 11:18 PM
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Tuning to E flat and set up - What will need to change?


When I lower my tuning to E flat, what will I have to change to keep the same action/set up? Will I need to tighten the trem springs?
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Old 07-17-2001, 11:37 PM
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Tuning to E flat and set up


You will need to change everything.
I have tried to do this on the fly and only changethe trem angle and trem hight. But found that the neck relief was wrong and the intonation was off.

If you have a second guitar, iy's well worth the time for the versatility it offers.

J>
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Old 07-18-2001, 03:29 AM
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I usually find that I don't need to adjust the truss rod or the trem angle much. But then again, I don't mind if the trem angle or relieft changes a little. The fact that the string tension is less makes the guitar easier to play anyway (well the lower tension might make really fast picking slightly more difficult). Eb is usually a temporary thing for me anyway, so I don't mess with it.

Your mileage will vary. The best way to tell is try it.

Rick
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Old 07-18-2001, 01:07 PM
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I'm with Jimm... adjust EVERYTHING
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Old 07-18-2001, 01:52 PM
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I would only agree with that if you are going to leave it in flat tuning for a while, otherwise I really wouldn't bother.
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Old 07-18-2001, 11:08 PM
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Tuning to E flat and set up


unless you are performing on stage or recording, triangle, the best way to detune to Eb is utilizing a pitch shifter in either a standalone unit or a multi-effects unit....true it's not as good as physically detuning, but it is great for just playing another song that requires it. if you don't own one already, if you go to purchase one, make sure it has good tracking abilities.....i am sure most on the market now are accceptable
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Old 07-19-2001, 02:02 AM
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Depending on how your guitar is set up... detuning 1/2 step will cause your trem angle to be sunk into the body cavity too much... this can cause high string tension, fretting out and little whammy ability. *That is why I say adjust everything.
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Old 07-19-2001, 04:21 AM
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Actually if you just want to jam to a recording test best way is too pitch shift the track up to normal pitch using wavelab or something similar.

Jay, I know what tuning down typically does. I do it myself on occassion. With 9 guage strings and 3 springs on an 25.5" guitar, the change is not so dramatic that I would screw with my action or truss rod to just jam on a Van Halen tune for a few hours. Of course, this also depends on how the guitar is setup up currently.
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Old 07-19-2001, 04:56 AM
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with 10's or 11's a 1/4 step tuning change will do enough damage to make me lose sleep at night. *Seriously. *My guitars tend to be down 1/2 step these days... it's a pain when I forget to match the keyboards up with those tunings.
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Old 07-19-2001, 07:54 AM
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jay is just anal....... *usually its just a trem adjustment.....in some extreme cases, its a trussrod adjustment.....e-flat is the way to go though.....most of my guitars end up in e-flat.....and the ones that dont, dont get played much
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