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Old 04-27-2009, 09:41 AM
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weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


does anyone know why does this happen? i come to practice, tune both guitars (ibby rga + Gibson LP) to pitch, then there's a two-hour or something of play time, guitars go packed into their cases. next evening, both are like +25 crnts sharp on all strings. do they f*cking grow at night?

it's not extyremely cold or extremely hot where the guitars are stored.


edit: the Edge pro equipped Ibby doesn't suffer from this
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:59 AM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


maybe...after you play them they cool down and contract? i don't know, it's a pretty random idea...
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:53 PM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


Temperature has a lot to do with it, also humidity. You can play a guitar sharp within minutes as your hands warm it up.
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:45 PM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


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Temperature has a lot to do with it, also humidity. You can play a guitar sharp within minutes as your hands warm it up.
whoa, cool.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:09 PM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


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Temperature has a lot to do with it, also humidity. You can play a guitar sharp within minutes as your hands warm it up.
i seriously doubt hand temperature can warm up the neck enough to make it go sharp in 5 minutes.
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:12 PM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


Wouldn't the strings expand more due to them being metal and then go flat?

Guitar physics :s
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:48 PM
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i seriously doubt hand temperature can warm up the neck enough to make it go sharp in 5 minutes.
Then you would be wrong......
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:54 PM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


Rich says what he means and means what he says......believe me, Rich dont make mistakes
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Old 04-27-2009, 04:57 PM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


I play guitar sharp all the time. I'm not talking 25 cents sharp [although it's possible if the temp difference is enough], but sharp is sharp, 5 cents or 100.
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


And yet his wit is sharper than anything!!!! LOL!!!
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Old 04-29-2009, 04:17 AM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


well i guess Rich is right. i tuned the guitar and by the end of rehearsal it was going very slightly sharp. and one more thing - now, when outside temperature / weather is a bit more stable, the "going sharp" effect started to fade away )) probably because the "start" and "end" temperarure difference (of guitar's neck) has diminished.
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Old 05-13-2009, 08:43 AM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


Just saw this old thread ,but it is actual for me -
Rich is right 100% .
Let check it out my case : here in South Africa in the Summer different between day/night temperature is say 28*C vs 18*c = 10*C .
But in the Winter it is say 25* vs 5* C = 29*C !
Guess when I start to have tuning problems ?
Yes you're right - right now in the Winter , when different between day and night is almost 20 * degrees Celsius degrees .
So , I am tuning my guitar every day ,instead every 3-4 days as I use to do during Summer.
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Old 05-13-2009, 09:56 AM
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Re: weird - guitars going sharp overnight.


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Wouldn't the strings expand more due to them being metal and then go flat?

Guitar physics :s
...well they would if there were no trussrod:

-the thermal expansion of steel strings is about twice that of wood, parallel to the grain.

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So , I am tuning my guitar every day.
You may find that adjusting the trussrod is the fastest way to combat going flat or sharp due to temperature. Necks with less wood and more metal (ie Wizards) should be less susceptible.
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