2 Different subjects..... - Just a thought...

[Project Guitar]

While I myself and probably 95% of the people in here are totlly satisfied with the profile of the wizard and other necks on your line of guitars.....

Do you think it may be time to introduce a fatter neck to sway some of the fender people to join our happy family?

Alot of the kids I see these days looking at guitars seam to think that the output plate on the lower end models looks or rather degrades the value of the guitar. I know the first argument that comes into place is the Strat " one jackplate fits all from low to high-end models".

I have always been curious why on the lower end models instead of doing the second pass with a drill to use a standard jack like in the RG models you add the cost of production by *adding 2-4 screws a plate and a non standard *vertion plug that uses a second nut ?

I know probably that nobody will answer this question for me but it sure would make the lower end models stand out above the normal one's offered from other manufactures and it would be a good selling point as well...

If you read this thanks for taking the time to think about it..........

[jem7vwh]

In regards to a thicker neck model, Ibanez has tried that. *It was called the Talman and it failed miserably. *On to the second question regarding the output jack.

I would suspect the difference is due to the place of manufacture. *The lower end models are made by another company who does what Ibanez asks. *Now some things are very uniform. *The Wizard II necks on RG-450s are completely representative of Ibanez concepts. *In fact they are very similar in specifications to the JEM neck. *But since they are assembled in other places, it's possible the Korean factory does not have the ability to use the same technique as the Japanese factory.

[Project Guitar]

Yes I remember the Talman and I thought it was a totally different design from the mainstream RG style of bodys. Something like a mix between a strat and a tele which should remain unmixed in my opinion...

What I ment to suggest is a superstrat style of body like the majority of Ibanez Electrics are but with the availability of the wide fat neck option on some models.

Same bodys just a different neck...

Sorry for the confusion.....

[jemsite]

I agree with Brian, in that Ibanez should consider 'beefing up' the necks on certain model RGs. Go back to more of an Ultra neck, and move away from the old Wizard profile. The Talman neck is not really a good comparison, due to the retro body, styling and trem. I'd bet many RG players have never even played one ...glen

[Noodles]

I alos would like to see a fatter rg neck. Glen is right at least in my case, I am a big rg style body fan an have never bothered playing a talman. If I wanted to go in that direction guitar wise I would go for a tele or strat.

[jem7vwh]

I'll say this. *It's ok as an option, but Ibanez has built a name and an image by building the fastest thinnest necks in the business. *If I were making the decisions, I'd be leary of moving away from my trademark. *We all know how embarassing it was when Fender tried to make a H-S-S Floyd equipped guitar in the 80's, imagine the jokes of Ibanez made a strat-esque model? *Folks would simply say Ibanez is retreating back to being a copy company like Hohner or Rogue.

[ChrisReedSmith]

I completely agree. Ibanez is THE thin and wide neck company. And thats a MAJOR, MAJOR, reason why I play them. Add on that they sound heavy and you cant kick that RG body and headstock. Oooo just to good of a guitar.

One reason why I want to get a custom neck done for my AX7...Its to fat!! I wish it had a wizard...

[jemsite]

everyone is entitled to their opinion but lets not mix up issues. You can have an 'ultra' profile neck (with more mass in the back) and this does NOT make it a strat neck, because *the radius and fretwork will still be flat.

When i hear things like we're the 'thin/wide' company it sounds as limiting as ibanez saying we're the 'locking tremolo company'. Their words yes, but perhaps shortsighted. The ibanez generation is growing up and i feel more choices here would be smart. Then again maybe marketing analysis might indeed prove this to be foolish. It's all speculation... glen

(Edited by jemsite at 12:17 am on April 3, 2001)

[jem7vwh]

you make many great points, and I agree there's nothing wrong with offering a choice of necks, but I personally would not pick up an Ibanez with a thicker back profile. *That's what I love about my RG-450 and my JEM7VWH is that flat D shape that lets me fly up and down the neck. *I suppose if I wanted that kind U shape, I'd opt for a jackson.

my point being, I think as an option it would be fine, but hopefully it would remain an option (like a humbucker on a strat) and let the traditional (and IMHO perfect) flat thin JEM/Wizard/Wizard II standard remain the status quo.

(Edited by jem7vwh at 1:28 am on April 3, 2001)

[Coolstu]

One of the main things I love about my RG is the Wizard neck. This is the reason that I will stick with Ibanez because no other guitar has a neck that feels as nice or playable as the Wizard.

[gkelm]

I like the skinny Wizaerd too. *

Actually, I've noticed more and more fatter necks...RG202x, S2020x, the upper end limited Prestige models, RG1880, etc. *Sometimes these are called Wizard, but they're definitely chunkier.

Also, the Blazer was a very strat-like guitar, with a bit fatter neck.
Greg