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[A.Ekström]

start making guitars with emg hz on, atleast on the more expensive guitars

[Papa_Shank]

You want them to put in passive emgs on their high range stuff? Mind if I ask why?

[red5]

I don't like EMGs at all but the passive ones are just horrible. Can't they put them on a cheaper model?

[Nordhauser]

Originally Posted by red5

I don't like EMGs at all but the passive ones are just horrible. Can't they put them on a cheaper model?

+1

All I really have to say to EMG is, "hell no." I'm glad Ibanez deals with DiMarzio.

I loathe EMGs as much as red5, but again I would have to ask why you would want HZs if anything?

[ChopTart]

i wouldn't put EMG's within 10 feet of my baby, passives all the way

yeah...aren't the HZ's supposed to really suck eggs?

[ibanez.shredder]

The EMG HZs really are inferior, but definatley not the actives. The passives are a waste of plastic and should never but put in an Ibanez, esspecially not a high end one.

[Nordhauser]

Originally Posted by ibanez.shredder

And all i have to say: get over the EMG hate!! Want know something? Maybe you should check this thread out, which shows there is basically no differnce between the Evo7 and EMG 81-7, and that would mean the same for the Evo and EMG 81. So what have you guys got against them? that 'oh i tried them once at a store and they sounded brittle, and thin and sterile' argument? well for starters that isnt even slightly true. it is just as communicative as an Evo and is pretty much the same as an evo, but the evo isnt as quiet as the EMG and the EMG has a superior clean tone so get over it. I don't mean to be rude but some of your other posts in other threads state the EMGs as inferior, which is bullshi*.

http://www.sevenstring.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3251

Oh and the EMG HZs really are inferior, but definatley not the actives. The passives are a waste of plastic and should never but put in an Ibanez, esspecially not a high end one.

Actually, I happen to own both the EMG 81 and the Evo. My Ibanez IC has the 81/85 combo. It used to sound great, but over time it sounds drab and dulll. I used to love them, but again i grew to loathe them. Not to mention they sound so unoriginal now that every single new band uses them in drop D as well. More or less, I am not a fan of the dirty or clean tones the EMG provides. Please don't say I have no experience with these pickups. Got pics on this site to prove it.

Evos are rich and searing; especially in Jems . Rhythms are beafy yet the leads are razor edged which I thought EMG didn't balance too well. DiMarzio does a great job not to mention that it's passive. My battery would die frequently with the actives which was a pain in the @ss. I could go on, but ya'll know about the qualities of the Evo.

I am entitled to my opinion as you are yours. I believe EMG lacks quality compared to Duncan and DiMarzio. End of story. I don't mean to be antagonistic in any way. These are just my thoughts.

Nordhauser

Edit: I am not speaking about the 7-string versions, just the 6-string.

[lyconxero]

I'm a firm supporter in everyone having their own personal opinion about things. Personally, I love Dimarzios AND EMG pickups. Each of their models have their good and bad points, but I'm not about to go on about that subject because that's not what this thread is about (even though that seems to be what EVERY EMG-related thread seems to turn into).

In my opinion, it would make absolutely no sense both from a business perspective and from a customer satisfaction perspective to put EMG-HZ pickups on high end Ibanez guitars. Firstly, EMG-HZ pickups kind of suck balls to begin with so they just aren't worthy to be on a Prestige Ibanez. Second, most guitar players who know anything about tone will agree that EMG-HZ pickups are far inferior to their active counterparts so it would make no sense to put something like that on a high end Ibanez guitar in mass production. Thirdly, EMG-HZ picups kind of suck balls (yes, I mentioned this point twice because it's really the most important). Ibanez is doing the right thing putting Dimarzios into their guitars because more people will agree with having them in their guitars as opposed to EMGs (active or passive). A more reasonable thing to ask of Ibanez would be to route their Prestige guitars so that you COULD go back and fit EMGs in without any routing. That way, if you personally want to put EMGs into your guitar (or EMG-HZ's if you were so inclined) you could do so with a minimum of work.

[ibanez.shredder]

Originally Posted by lyconxero

I'm a firm supporter in everyone having their own personal opinion about things. Personally, I love Dimarzios AND EMG pickups. Each of their models have their good and bad points, but I'm not about to go on about that subject because that's not what this thread is about (even though that seems to be what EVERY EMG-related thread seems to turn into).

In my opinion, it would make absolutely no sense both from a business perspective and from a customer satisfaction perspective to put EMG-HZ pickups on high end Ibanez guitars. Firstly, EMG-HZ pickups kind of suck balls to begin with so they just aren't worthy to be on a Prestige Ibanez. Second, most guitar players who know anything about tone will agree that EMG-HZ pickups are far inferior to their active counterparts so it would make no sense to put something like that on a high end Ibanez guitar in mass production. Thirdly, EMG-HZ picups kind of suck balls (yes, I mentioned this point twice because it's really the most important). Ibanez is doing the right thing putting Dimarzios into their guitars because more people will agree with having them in their guitars as opposed to EMGs (active or passive). A more reasonable thing to ask of Ibanez would be to route their Prestige guitars so that you COULD go back and fit EMGs in without any routing. That way, if you personally want to put EMGs into your guitar (or EMG-HZ's if you were so inclined) you could do so with a minimum of work.

Yeah you're right, each to his own opinion, sorry Nordhauser. Post deleted.

Thats a great idea, the pickup cavities only need slight routing (except 7-strings) so ibanez could do that and still fit dimarzios with no aethetic problems, and its only required on direct-mount pickup guitars anyway.

[buddroyce]

As much as the EMG-HZ's suck, they're still EMG's and for some god-forsaken reason I used to get customers that come into the shop(back when I was still working) and actually *THINK* that the EMG-HZ's on the Jacksons and LTD guitars were good selling points even though they see that it's not the actives. My point here is that putting on EMG-HZ's gives customers the perception of value because it's essentially two brand names put together.

I mean EMG does have suckier pickups (EMG Selects anyone??), and the EMG HZ's are made in the USA so there is some sort of value. I mean I'm pretty sure people would be happy if Ibanez put in the crappiest set of Dimarzio's out there on the Prestige line of guitars just because it's Ibanez+Dimarzio. The best move I've seen Ibanez do is introduce the Extreme line of guitars with the active EMGs(the bad move was not sell them here). If they actually went and dropped in the EMG-HZ's into something like say.. an RG350, I'd say it'd be pretty decent value from the customer standpoint.

Somebody seriously needs to talk to the Ibanez big wigs about this, because from the way they're going right now, I'd say that they'll lose another 10-20% of the market share, but then again.. maybe it's the kick in the ass that they need.

[lyconxero]

They need to just put REAL EMGs into a few models. Bringing those Extreme models over here to the US would be a great idea, but now I think that it would just interfere with sells of the new Mick signature model. I'll give it to you that you have a point about putting EMG HZ pickups into a regular series Ibanez guitar. I mean, just look at how well those Guitar Center RGs sold that had "Designed by EMG" pickups in them. People ate them up like candy canes on Christmas.

[buddroyce]

I actually didn't know about the Guitar Center RG's with the 'Designed by EMG' pickups (which are probably the EMG Selects). I actually don't think the Extreme Editions would conflict much with the sales for the Mick Thompson model since one has a trem and the other has the FX bridge. (Well that and the different pickup combos)

[A.Ekström]

i didnt mean that they should put emg hz on the more expensive just that they should put some sort od EMG on the more expensive. the emg hz h4 sounds great