Ibanez Effects & Amps - your feedback wanted for product R&D

[jemsite]

A regular visitor of the forum is now involved with the electronics R&D division of Hoshino USA. They have put out an open call to the Forum looking for ideas for their expanding amp and effect line.

The focus and feedback is welcome regarding expanding these products:

• smaller (25-50 watt) combo amps: straight forward combo amp at a good price. (ie. not expensive modeling, but maybe a DSP chip for tonal quality).
• stomp boxes - looking for realistic suggestions that would appeal to a wide audience of guitarists.

All feedback, comments & suggestions welcome. Thanks... glen

[jem7vwh]

My suggestion for small amps: *There are practically no "good" tube amps at small sizes. *A little practice amp with good tone is practically un heard of. *So how about a 20 watt, all tube practice amp?

Stomp Boxes: *A decent pitch-shifter is hard to find outside of rack effects. *If Ibanez could create a good pitchshifter in a stomp box, that would be great.

[Rich]

How about the *real* bedroom volume all tube combo that MANY are crying for? 50 miliamp please.

[Devo]

yeah a bedroom all tuber would be sweet!
the legacy isnt much appreciated around here.

emm I dont have much experience with Ibanez pedals, I used to use a 'classic metal' once upon a time.

[bob oakman]

Most Stomp Boxes have a big problem… IMHO. NOISE! I understand that the introduction of noise is amplified by the properties of high-gain in an amplifier, but it seems the more you tweak a stomper, the more noise it introduces… Big problem.

I personally would like to see an EQ and /or “gain enhancing device” with big overkill on the power supply Perhaps a built in power supply would be nice. I think people care about quality more than physical size and price… and who, besides me, uses batteries in their stomp boxes anyway?

I agree with the small, all-tube, combo amp suggestion. Modeling would be an acceptable alternative, but place Hoshino in risky competition with Line Six and others. Tube gain and diverse EQ options, placed before and after the pre-amp, would make me happy. If you can do that, forget the EQ box. :biggrin:

[Gabe Nickelson]

AMPS:

Stereo Option:
With DSP technologies there should be a stereo option on certain models, 2x10.

FX Loop:
Something that has prevented me from buying a Spyder amp is the neglect of the FX Loop. *Simple addition.

Pricing:
I feel a competing amp against the Spyder would be ideal. *Make the high-end model sell for $100 under that of the Line-6 if similar modeling is used.

Stomp Boxes:
Metal casings, including the bottom. *No plastics! *LED that is durable and will last, unlike the TS-808. *I agree with Bob - low noise.

Gabe


(Edited by Gabe Nickelson at 4:54 pm on Sep. 19, 2001)

[goldboy]

I am in love with old analog pedals. *I have been 'collecting' them for a while for sheer tone lust!!

My personal faves I feel should come back for others to enjoy in the same format WITHOUT having to call them RE-ISSUES.

The old Analog Flange, Analog Delay, Analog Compressor. *Those I feel would have a very GOOD impact on the current pedal line that Ibanez offers. *I know there are the 'analog re-issues' (which are just too large given that the older ones did a much nicer sounding job with the same style and format of the 9 series of pedals.

A great deal of money is spent on the older analog models of the older (early 80's) from the Ibanez line. *I am not a tone purist and will say that you need to release the identical product...but spare us the 're-issue' status and release a genuine analog pedal in the spirit of your early 80s models.

BRING QUALITY ANALOG PEDALS BACK!!!!

and affordable too, this is getting 'spensive Lucy!

[goldboy]

I forgot a very valid point.....

It is 2001 going into another year....let this newer generation experience the joys of analog pedals as the previous two decades.. The main reason the older analog pedals are considered 'boutique' is because no one else (or most no one) is creating a 'faithful' replicate of a good product (that is not BREAKING the wallet either)


Bring back your delicious analog pedals....

anyone remember the AD-99....there's a reason I have two of 'em..hehehehehehehe

[jem7pbk]

Amps:
I'd love to see a good 2x12 50watt combo ( no amp modeling there are way to many of those out there and they all sound bad) something with a mid scoop knob or a graphic Eq. and come stock with casters and a differnt color tolex then black. Some thing with two channels ( one clean one dirty) hi gain. Solid State or tube or Solid with a tube preamp. aroundthe $400 to $500 range retail not list

FX:
How about a ring module in the tone lock line
or a synth bass pedal
*

[7 Dying Trees]

Instead of DSP why not add a drum machine to the amp? or at least some cool fixed rythms to play around with. These amps are going to be used for practice at home, so why not add a drum machine to make pratice a bit more interesting? Modelling amps have been done, and to be honest don't interest me at all. It wouldn't be a plus point to me at all.
Have some kind of easy to use panel on top of the amp. Have a tempo control, then have a bank of buttons that light up, say 64 positions x 8 sounds or something. push the button, it lights up, hey presto that drum sound will appear right there. Have hihat/bassdrum/snare/tom1->3/cymbal1/cymbal2 or something. Just make the UI quick and easy to use and intuitive. You don't want to be stuck playing around with something for 2 hrs just to figure it out.

Also have an FX loop and speaker outputs that you can plug your own speakers/cabs into if you want. This shouldn't be too expensive.

James.

[ripl3y]

Definatley with the guys on the bedroom tube amp thing.

Something like 5-10 watts would be more than plenty enough though and 1 channel would be fine as long as it cleaned up well.

On the pedal front I'd like to see some a nice warm delay priced competatively.

Steve

[Gabe Nickelson]

Quote: from 7 Dying Trees on 6:23 am on Sep. 20, 2001
Instead of DSP why not add a drum machine to the amp?

Might sound a bit rough. *Maybe if you had a second set of speakers for the drums. *I can't imagine having the drums and guitar going through the same speakers simultaniously.

Good thought though...

Gabe

[jem7pbk]

Quote: from Gabe Nickelson on 4:03 pm on Sep. 20, 2001

Might sound a bit rough. *Maybe if you had a second set of speakers for the drums. *I can't imagine having the drums and guitar going through the same speakers simultaniously.

Good thought though...

Gabe

I think its a great Idea! the digitech rp2000 has *built in drum patterns and I played them threw one amp and they sounded great

[one less than none]

personally on the bedroom amp thing i think 5-10 watts is WAY to loud

less then 1 watt is plenty, then we could get power tube breakup........

[Rich]

It seems to be the concensus of these amp guru boards that 50milliwatt amps fit the bill prefectyl.