fridgian dominant

[CaptainOi]

for the last year or so for some reason i have ignored fridgian...so much so im not sure how to spell it let alone play it.

got a big blank spot on this one if anyone can help...lets say its in A

[Eco]

hit it up here.

http://jguitar.com/scale

[CaptainOi]

im such a T*T

of course its phrygian, i no that already but i couldnt say it right so i thought it was different.

man i smoke to much
thanks eco

[Eco]

No probs

[andy7jem]

I think the fridgian mode is a particularly cold sounding scale

[IbanezGirl]

LOL!! Andy you seem to be on fire today.

[screamndemon69]

Any mode that starts with a half step will sound "strange" compared to other scales and modes. I think Phrygian sounds very Spanish to me.

oh, and Andy - that was funny you clever bugger!

[andy7jem]

Originally Posted by IbanezGirl

LOL!! Andy you seem to be on fire today.

It's ok though.......i keep a fire extinguisher handy in case things get out of control

[eviltwin]

try "War" by Satch (progression is E-phrygian, B-phrygian, A aeolian)

or that Spanish sounding song on Vai's "AIAUW"
EDIT 't was "Iberian Jewel"

but both are not dominant sorry...

[GilkyBear]

Originally Posted by andy7jem

I think the fridgian mode is a particularly cold sounding scale

Andy, you're on point today! I'm gonna have to start calling you A-holian major

[andy7jem]

I've been called a lot worse

[Axayacatl]

how do you set the chords for a E-phrygian, B-phrygian, A aeolian progression?

I know all my modes around all the neck, but I often get stuck, say, in E minor, and just do D myxolidian, B phrygian, G ionian, C lydian... etc etc. but it gets boring because its all in E really.

how do I go about making it intersting and mixing modes with different chord tones?

thanks!
the thread hijacker

[screamndemon69]

E minor, B minor and A minor.

Depending on the melody, you can overlap different minors if you are playing a mino progression.

Dorian and Aeolian are only one note apart and of course minor pentatonic fits over most minor progressions with ease. For majors, Lydian is only one different from ionian as is mixolydian. It really comes down to what notes are being outlined in the melody or rhythm as to which notes you can or can't (shouldn't) include in your lead.

As fas as getting stuck in a key, just try to interchange minor modes instead of staying diatonic (in key) like I was saying about dorian and aeolian.

[screamndemon69]

Originally Posted by Axayacatl

how do you set the chords for a E-phrygian, B-phrygian, A aeolian progression?

I know all my modes around all the neck, but I often get stuck, say, in E minor, and just do D myxolidian, B phrygian, G ionian, C lydian... etc etc. but it gets boring because its all in E really.

how do I go about making it intersting and mixing modes with different chord tones?

thanks!
the thread hijacker

Alot of stuff on the guitar gets played in and around G maj or one of it's modes because a basic standard tuned 6 string guitar is actually laid out in that key.

Do you know the roman numeral system for the modes and chords of major?

ex)
I. major
ii. minor
iii. minor
IV. major
V. major (dom)
vi. minor (natural, relative)
vii. minor (half diminished)

[Axayacatl]

Originally Posted by screamndemon69

Alot of stuff on the guitar gets played in and around G maj or one of it's modes because a basic standard tuned 6 string guitar is actually laid out in that key.

Do you know the roman numeral system for the modes and chords of major?

ex)
I. major
ii. minor
iii. minor
IV. major
V. major (dom)
vi. minor (natural, relative)
vii. minor (half diminished)

Hey thanks for the help

1. yes I do know the numeral system. It helps me think of my modes.

Also, I know how to think of the modes and how they play off each other. The lydian being a major with a sharp fourth (sounds awesome!), the dorian is like a minor with a major moment (raise the sixth), etc.

Also, I get your point about listening to the melody line.
Say the melody is in A minor. You can shred E minor (but don't hit that f#!!), shred B minor (but don't hit that F# and c#) etc...

But I don't know how to make it sound nice to jump to a completely different key. I know all my modes, but feel like they end up being stale because i'm playing all the same notes.

On the other hand, with practice, I can introduce some chromatisism and then jump scales.

Ex: you're in E minor... then... out of the blue, use a C# to introduce something interesting, and then later in the song switch to B minor (so the C# was foreshadowing), etc..

Anyways, thanks for the help. I'll follow your advice and try to create progressions over minors. I'm just really bad with chords.