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Old 12-21-2007, 06:27 AM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


I think it's about time some clever bugger invented a "awesome guitarist" pill.

I'm sure that anyone who's heard me play would be willing to kick in some cash to pay for the prescription.

Rock on!
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


Don't we all want to be better players??

Keep those comments coming guys im getting ideas here too
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:41 AM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


Everyone here has great input. Try what people suggests and see what works for you.


Remember have fun in the process.
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Old 12-22-2007, 01:19 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


Today I invested in two books. They are the rock school series books that provide songs that are at a certain skill level 1-8, 8 being the hardest.

Listened the the CD that came with and the grade 7 has the best pieces. The Van Halen spoof is brilliant.
I'll try and have it recorded soon but the songs not exactly easy, nor is the guitar solo.

I had passed grade 5 when I was at school 6 months ago so stepping up to grade 7 should be fun!
Theres a sweep picking excerpt in it too.

http://profile.ultimate-guitar.com/apmaman/ The one called Third Degree...

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Old 12-22-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


Go to a good guitar teacher, they should hopefully open your eyes to a large number of bands and artists with music that you can have a crack at AS WELL as breaking the songs down into exercises and smaller parts.

He should also show you how to use your newly acquired techniques with taste, this will require you learn how to use dynamics, rhythm and note choice in your playing.

Speed means NOTHING if you cannot put it to some kind of ARTISTIC use.

A good 'plan' for the future would be: (either with or without a teacher), make a list of songs you would like to play - include a variety that are manageable right up to being completely out of your reach (these last few should be your goals to attempt when you feel ready).

Get the music for the above songs from a RELIABLE source, if you have to use guitar pro/powertab, then so be it, buying published tab books is probably a good idea - The difficulty with this is that many solos by artists such as Satriani/Vai will be rather complex in terms of the amount of notes that are flying at you, so also look at LIVE performances of these songs by the same artists (and even covers) and then you will see that they rarely play the same solo twice (I think this is very important, early on in my guitar playing life I 'wasted' for want of a better expression hours sctrutinising over the tinest details where in the end I could have been looking at the bigger picture).

Once you have listened to/read through the tab/watched videos/tried to play the above songs you will start to become familiar with various techniques associated with this music - alternate picking, legato (hammer ons/pull offs), string bending, tapping, muting, barreing, etc etc. Begin to search for exercises on the above techniques and extrapolate your OWN exercises from the songs you have been learning (a teacher is a BIG help to do this, I personally break every solo down into small sections for my students).

The bigger picture! (mentioned previously) -- > Whilst doing this your technique should be improving all the time (be patient and take your time) you MAY want to start learning how to use the above mentioned techniques in a CREATIVE context, the most common is improvisation:

Research into the 12 bar blues and learn about your pentatonic scales, there is absolutely tonnes of information on the web about pentatonics, improvisation and playing the blues but once again - a GOOD teacher should be able to start you off with the most effective things to practise.

A good grounding in blues improvisation will give you a great stand point for moving into more 'shred' styles of improv *hopefully you'll experiment other roads too other than just 'shred'* Becoming familiar with how to solo over a basic 3 chord change with pentatonics, diatonic major and minor scales, arpeggios and eventually modes will be the best preparation possible for trying to dive into Steve Vai esq music. Knowing how to play in a certain key by and/or using scale shapes/knowledge of the fretboard and tonality will give you useful ammo for altering those solos to your own taste.

Good luck and have fun, keep us posted on your progress too

Steve

EDIT: Oh and buy a metronome, there's also no such thing as B#/Cb and E#/Fb (most of the time) - this will make sense to you in a few months
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Old 12-24-2007, 10:26 AM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


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I am trying to focus on learning how to be a shred player, however I cant really find anything useful to get me started. I have total guitars "beginners guide to shredding" but its just a handful of exercises.

Does anyone have any good material they can point me in the direction of becoming a proficient shred player? Something like songs that are shred-esc but are not too hard and good to begin with. All i seem to find are songs that are well out of my league just now.

Thanks a bunch!
Most shredding is just simple stuff played so fast that it is hard for your brain to comprehend. Go on youtube and just type in "shred lesson". there are some great patterns, and they have helped.

Like everyone else said, just practice. Shred guitarists are just geeks with a lot of time on their hands deep down inside!!!
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Old 12-24-2007, 04:15 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


I'd also invite you to check out my book.. "Intelli-Shred"
http://www.amazon.com/Intelli-Shred-...7805884&sr=8-1
.. it just got a GREAT review in "Guitar Techniques" December 2007 (SRV cover) issue.
Other's I'd recommend would be:
Shred Is NOT Dead (Teryy Syrek)
Speed Mechanics for Lead Guitar (Troy Stetina)
Wild Stringdom (John Petrucci)
Rock Discipline (John Petrucci)
I've used all these personally with my intermediate and advanced students along with the concepts in my book with wonderful success.
Anything I can ever do to help you.. please don't ever hesitate to pm or e-mail me.
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:17 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


My advice:

Learn the diatonic modes + melodic & harmonic minor. From there you can see chords and arpeggios. Build three tone and four tone chords and invert them all over the neck. Do the same with all scales and practice the sound over a key tone like "A". Then you will get a good feel of the structure of music and how to express yourself via tones. Also use intervals.

Practice 1,2 and three step bends. Nothing worse than a bend out of tune and believe me.. it happens a lot..

Practice vibrato. Listen to all the greats ( Clapton, Hendix, Van Halen, Steve Vai, Malmsteen, SRV, etc.) and duplicate all vibrato's. See what you like most.

Dynamics: When to play loud on the strings and when to calm down? When should you pick that note hard?

Rhythm: just take up a few drumlessons. learn a couple of basic rhytms, so you know you 4/4, 3/4 and 16 bar lines. Real usefull!

Song structures: what works? Do a little research in songwriting. What songs do you like? and analyse those songs why you like them. Is in your favorite key? Do you have a couple of changes that you like? Break it all down

Good luck and don't forget: it's all about fun and the song!
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:07 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


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I am trying to focus on learning how to be a shred player, however I cant really find anything useful to get me started. I have total guitars "beginners guide to shredding" but its just a handful of exercises.

Does anyone have any good material they can point me in the direction of becoming a proficient shred player? Something like songs that are shred-esc but are not too hard and good to begin with. All i seem to find are songs that are well out of my league just now.

Thanks a bunch!
FWIW, I am 47 years old. I just received a JS1200, I am lookin' at this thing & thinking about my abilities (or lack thereof) wondering how I can live up to this guitar, then I start to get all intimidated thinkin' about the guitarist it's attributed to.

I have been playing for over 20 years, and I just went out and started taking lessons again...from a guy way younger than me in so many ways, but he can play what I want/feel I need to learn...so that's the direction I went.

I can look at tab and hear tunes all day, but sometimes, I need it taped to my forehead before I start to get it.

Lessons may help you too, they are helping me.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:44 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


I don’t mean to hijack the tread. Is it advisable to practice a solo with backing track rather than metronome?
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Old 01-10-2008, 06:56 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


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I don’t mean to hijack the tread. Is it advisable to practice a solo with backing track rather than metronome?
I do all the time...until I get it down. Then I work it solo, and then revisit the recording to learn it again.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:36 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


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I don’t mean to hijack the tread. Is it advisable to practice a solo with backing track rather than metronome?
Of course. Think of it as a more interesting metronome - the beat is still there to keep you in check and that is all a metronome is there for; to practice accurate rhythm.

Although, you can't necessarily slow down a backing track unless you have the software to do it, and it would be advisable to do so.

Oh, the wonders of modern technology.
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Old 01-26-2008, 12:16 PM
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Re: I want to be a better player.


hey there, some really good advice going on here. I totally agree with the metronome. very important to get your timing right, even if you can do thousands of modal runs its gonna sound terrible if not kept in time. I tend to play along to Dreamtheater. Well rounded for technique. Very helpful for warmup too!! I use erotomania from awake for warming up usually. Good for stretches.
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