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Old 06-10-2002, 02:29 PM
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perfect pitch? how?


Could Someone please tell me/advise me on how to obtain perfect pitch.
I can learn things by ear quickly, and here the quality of most chords but well...any exercises u kno of?

Please dont say buy that bk thing on perfect pitch.com!
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Old 06-10-2002, 11:00 PM
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I recently saw a TV show that did a research on perfect pitch. It said that perfect pitch requires training at a very early age (like 3).
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Old 06-11-2002, 01:10 AM
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I'm a firm believer that anything can be done. I don't have a sure fire way of helping you, but all things come with practice. You also have to realize that some people are just born with a 'nack' or 'gifted'. Its not fair to compare yourself or anyone else who has been given a gift for perfect pitch, or running or whatever... just be the best you can be.

oh and if I had perfect pitch, I would share how i got it!
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Old 06-11-2002, 01:28 AM
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The best thing you can do for your ears is write out what you hear.

Last year, there was a thread on this very topic. I posted a lot on there. check it out
http://www.jemsite.insomnia-vhosting...pic.php?t=5421

Do a forum search and even a Google search on "perfect pitch".

~Kenny
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Old 06-11-2002, 01:29 PM
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I hate being a scepticist, but I think perfect pitch is something you are either born with or something that CAN be learn't only if your mind setup allows it.
On the other hand, relative pitch is something you can learn and if practiced hard I don't see why it can't be as useful as perfect.

The best step towards it is trying to play what you hear.

Play part of a song then turn it off.
From there try to re-create it note for note without putting the tune back on again as a reference point.
Record what you play then compare it with the original.
Work at this with lots of different songs and styles, always understanding the notes on your fretboard along the way and you will make a massive stride.

Steve
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Old 06-14-2002, 06:10 PM
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An interesting subject, undeniably.

I was born with perfect pitch, which is probably the reason why I learned writing music before playing it. :) As a kid I was listening to Bach's organ works all the time, and for some reason my dad had the scores for most of them, so I listened and read. That made an easy connection. And ever since, my only "musical problems" so to speak has been pure mechanical issues (achieving a certain degree of technical skill on an instrument). I am now 26 years old and in the last 20 years I have only met two other people with perfect pitch, despite the fact that I've spent most of my life in different music schools. This does seem a bit odd.

Anyway, most of the friends I've made in such places has asked this very question, among others...how to obtain perfect pitch, what it's like and so on. Though I was born with it I do believe one can train oneself to it, but I'm not really sure how. Some things come to mind, though...

First, make sure you are truly aware of what perfect pitch is; it's much more than simply being able to tell the note(s) you're hearing. It's an ability to totally connect with the musical universe; you could think of music as the world, and perfect pitch as all your senses - sight, smell etc. Just as a hamburger and a hot dog taste different (heh, tacky comparision but wtf), there's a difference to, say, e minor and f minor. And I don't mean simply the difference in pitch; the personality of the keys are different. A piece can be completely fantastic in e minor while it's totally wrong in f minor.

Second, with that in mind, you may engage in training such as described by ripl3y above. And I really mean "with that in mind". :) This is about EAR, and that's...well, that's sort of where everything's at. So don't take this as a simple technique exercise or similar - you have to really dig really deep into what you're doing. Relative pitch would be quite easy to develop I believe - what you want to do here is to sort of incorporate the reference points into your head, and developing perfect pitch would mean that those reference points were always there. Listen very closely. Experiment with transposing songs and try to notice a change of "feel".

This will take an extraordinary amount of time and dedication. Perhaps it is possible to "brain wash" yourself with a certain reference tone (hey, if you've got a 440 Hz A sounding in your headphones 24/7 for a couple of months, you might as well get perfect pitch, and probably go crazy too as a bonus) but I believe, as with most things, that you get out what you put in. And if you really, REALLY dedicate yourself...well, maybe you'll be surprised. :)

Oh well...quite a lengthy post, and I hope I didn't sound like an ******* or something. :) Please ask if there's anything I can help you with. Good luck.
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Old 06-15-2002, 05:43 AM
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Thanks for your help and suggestions! much appreciated.
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