Seemingly simple riff kickin my butt.

[Darin]

Part of a song I need to nail spot on in a month at blazing speed. I usually just do it "pull off" style. But picked sounds better, and correct. There is just something about this that's really hard for me. Not the picking speed, or the fingering, but together......it's a train wreck. I think because it's a sextuplet?

--5-4-2---------5-4-2---------5-4-2----------------------
---------5-4-2----------5-4-2--------5-4-2---------------
----------------------------------------------4-2-1-----
-----------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------------------
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You give it a try and let me know what you think. Accents on the A

[wallie!]

I found it a lot easier to play when I was tapping my foot to match where the accents are.

[EL-CeeDee]

How fast is blazing speed?

[Darin]

well, perhaps now that I'm thinkin about it, maybe not BLAZING. but fast. I think it might be about 120bpm, making it 6 notes per sec.

[toneboy]

Ok, dumb question - do you have a metronome and/or are you playing with a click track?

I too have a difficulty with counting sextuplets against a standard 4/4 but once I started putting my exercises into Guitar Pro, things got a whole lot easier.

[EL-CeeDee]

Originally Posted by Darin

well, perhaps now that I'm thinkin about it, maybe not BLAZING. but fast. I think it might be about 120bpm, making it 6 notes per sec.

In that case it would be triplets, sextuplets would equate to 12 notes / sec.

I actually practiced similar shapes to get my string to string transitions sharper. It is well possible your difficulties are caused by the same thing. Keep going over the first section to get the transitions down, play it in all permutations on different strings ( you might want to try them with a string skip ). gradually increase the tempo untill you are at speed. Sorry, no shortcuts..

[andy7jem]

I could do it in my sleep!!!!







Shame i couldn't do it when i woke up though

[taracatac]

HAHA good one

[MattyCakes]

well how fast is it, are you comfortable inside/outside picking etc...

[screamndemon69]

Originally Posted by andy7jem

I could do it in my sleep!!!!







Shame i couldn't do it when i woke up though

You never fail to give me a good laugh Andy

Start with a slower tempo (whatever tempo you are currently able to play it cleanly) and just keep working it up until you finally get it played at the desired speed cleanly. I've seen Vai doing exactly the same thing on difficult passages and not long ago I worked on a difficult rhythm part that was around 120BPM playing 1/16 notes. It took sometime to get it up to speed cleanly but slow steady work paid off.

Make a clip when it starts to come togther for you

~Bones

[varador]

Do you use alternate or economy picking?

[jaxadam]

I tried this lick out, and if it's at 120 bpm and sextuplets, I would suggest what Todd (screamndemon69) said. Just practice with a metronome.

I got to about 200 on triplets after only a few minutes, so I'm sure if you're a seasoned guitar player, you should have no problem.

I hate metronomes, but sometimes they are a good tool for getting stuff done.

I wouldn't suggest economy picking, although I tried a few variations, i.e. starting on an upstroke, etc...

[Ad_Astra]

Tr00 metalheads play that with downstrokes only.

[Lefty Robb]

I would just do it legato...but thats me..I don't know why but this reminds me of the main Jibboom lick.

[Ad_Astra]

Now that I'm home, I tried that. Found it easier to play on B, G & D strings, starting from the 10th fret on B string.