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Old 10-13-2005, 04:24 PM
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yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


How does yngwie zoom through (down, up across all of the strings) those scales. I mean does he tremelo pick it all or does he use hammer ons. It seems to me he just picks every note how do you do it (and arpedgios)
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Old 10-15-2005, 07:00 AM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Are you famiiliar with the differences between playing legato and playing with alternate picking?

Legato is by playing using hammer ons and pull offs, alternate picking is where you pick each individual note (in a scale run for example) seperately by using alternate up and down strokes of the pick.

Maybe get the tab/score to some music which contains both legato and alternate picking (For the Love of God will have this), then listen to the song and hear where the legato parts are and where the alternate picking parts are, so you can get more familiar with the difference in tone each technique provides.

Yngwie has very good technique and it does sound very smooth when he's playing his runs further down the neck in the first octave, but when he gets up at the top of the neck you can usually hear if he's alternate picking due to the high treble created by playing the higher notes.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:52 AM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Yngwie is more of a picker, he doesn't use much legato in his runs, if at all. He sometimes Economy picks, but that may complicate things a little.
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Old 10-15-2005, 08:59 AM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Strictly alternate picking should be used for Yngwie licks. Thats all he ever uses, along with sweeping. He never uses legato really. I am sure he is an amazing legato player - but he prefers the "sharp" sound of alternate picking.

I personally prefer alternate picking everything too! lol
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:28 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


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Strictly alternate picking should be used for Yngwie licks.
No. He uses economy picking most of the time actually, which contradicts to my previous reply, but if I can recall correctly he obviously alternate picks licks that go across a string or 2, but when it comes to runs, he pretty much economy picks.
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:52 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


yeah something like that
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Old 10-23-2005, 08:14 AM
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No. He uses economy picking most of the time actually, which contradicts to my previous reply, but if I can recall correctly he obviously alternate picks licks that go across a string or 2, but when it comes to runs, he pretty much economy picks.
just a general question in response

isnt economy pickin gand sweep picking the same thing? just a different name?
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Old 10-23-2005, 02:35 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


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isnt economy pickin gand sweep picking the same thing? just a different name?
lets say you're doing a 3-note per string run. the picking would be like this:

down up down -> down up down -> down up down etc.

basically, your getting the most out of every pick by continuing (in this case) your downstroke on the last note you play on a given string to the first note on the next.

thats what i thought economy picking was. could be wrong!
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:20 AM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Use a heavy plectrum that helps a lot, also tune to Eb the lower strig tension makes fretting easier (like Yngwie/Stump) practice minor scales up one string moving in patterns of 5 notes .e.g for A Minor go up the high E in this pattern: A B C B A B C D C B C D E D C etc stagger the descent using THREE note groups and skipping notes to get the full on Yngwie up/down run e.g: C B A B A G G F E F E D A G F G F E etc

Be aware on single note runs Yngwie picks EVERY note, for clarity, when plays sweeps/multi string runs as has been noted he economy picks a lot, also take into account th Eb tuning and scalloped fingerboard vastly increase how easy it is to play those runs on a normal guitar you need more finger pressure as you have to push the string into the fingerboard so you will always be slower than a scalloped necked player!
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Old 10-28-2005, 05:51 AM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Frank Gambale confuses things a little. He calls 'economy picking' 'sweep picking' and sometimes he refers to it as 'speed picking', I think.
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Old 10-30-2005, 09:12 AM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Yngwie doesn't actually Sweep, or Economy Pick at all really. He does sometimes, but not very often. Its all alternate picked usually, 98% of the time. He prefers the "biting" sound to it, and so do I. Anything Yngwie that I play, its all alternate picking only, especially all his Phrygian and Harmonic Minor runs.

Yngwie can of course do both, and he does sometimes use the Sweep and Economy technique......but he prefers and uses the Alternate picking method the most!
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Old 10-30-2005, 01:08 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


I'm pretty sure Yngwie always sweeps his 3 and 5 string arpeggios.

Again, I'm sure his runs are economy picked. I have the Play Loud series and he says he always alternate picks but when it comes to crossing/changing strings he will copy the previous picking stroke.
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Old 10-30-2005, 05:58 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


Yngwie doesn't "always" or "almost always" do anything. Watch enough videos of him and sure he does alternate pick an awful lot, but he uses economy and sweeping all the time. Sometimes he picks his arpeggios, just look at Far Beyond The Sun.

He aint no one trick pony. He's a god.
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Old 10-31-2005, 04:45 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


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He aint no one trick pony. He's a god.
I wouldn't go that far. Haha.
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Old 10-31-2005, 06:42 PM
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Re: yngwie malmsteen decending, accending patterns


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I wouldn't go that far. Haha.
No he thinks he's god .

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