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Old 03-22-2008, 06:27 PM
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jazz and blues: need advice


hello,

I know next to 0 on blues and jazz guitarists and i'd like to build myself a repertoire in these 2 styles. (quite different than the usual rock i deliver to my neighbors! )

is it possible for some of you who are into these styles to give me the "all time classics" please: artists and song?

like:

jazz:
- kid charlemagne (larry carlton) with steely dan
- a pair of kings (same)
- room 335 (same)

blues:
- the thrill is gone (bb king)
- damn right i got the blues (buddy guy)
- when my guitar gently weeps (clapton / harrison)
- born under a bad sign / stormy monday (albert king)
- have you ever loved a woman (freddy king)

I know some names (but i don't know their famous "hits")
- t-bone walker
- muddy waters

thanks!
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Old 03-23-2008, 10:00 PM
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Re: jazz and blues: need advice


my favorite jazz guitarist is kenny burrell. he has great tone and is super melodic. he did a session with coltrane that was phenomenal, but i really dig the album 'midnight blue'.

pat metheny is another great jazz guitarist. his repertoire covers a lot of ground however. some of his stuff can be synthy, some is almost kind of new age-y/soundtrack-like and some is very traditional bebopish.

of course, django rhinehardt (sp?) is a must. for a guy who only had 2 fingers on his picking hand, he was incredibly nimble. it's early jazz, pre-bepop i believe

and john scofield is cool too, especially for rock guys because he typically uses a little gain on his tone. he gets pretty funky too if i remember correctly.
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Old 03-24-2008, 02:06 AM
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Re: jazz and blues: need advice


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of course, django rhinehardt (sp?) is a must. for a guy who only had 2 fingers on his picking hand, he was incredibly nimble. it's early jazz, pre-bepop i believe
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Don't you mean fretting hand?
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Old 03-24-2008, 07:02 AM
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Re: jazz and blues: need advice


There are literally 100's of 'classics' you could learn but the list of artists you've got so far is a pretty good list from someone who knows 0 about blues! The good thing about blues per se is that 90% of artists do 'covers' of previous pieces so I'd get something realy simple and play around and expand on it - it's good to steal!

I'm probably being way too predictable but I'd add these to an essential blues list

Hendrix - Red House
Boom Boom - John Lee Hooker
Dust My Broom - Elmore James
All Your Love - Otis Rush
Five Long years - Eddie Boyd I think was the original artist but listen to Clapton's version on From The Cradle - he still has 'it' on that track!
SRV - Texas Flood
SRV - Couldn't Stand the Weather

If you want to immerse yourself into the blues genre listen to as much Freddie, Albert and BB King you can get hold of and mix in Buddy Guy (get the albumn Can't Quit The Blues its outstanding), Jimmy Vaughan, John Mayall and if you can get hold of it (or download it ) get hold of 'Blues Jam in Chicago' by Fleetwood Mac - that's the Peter Green era, not the Stevie Nicks / Lindsey Buckingham era! Otis Rush plays pretty accessible stuff too.

The more modern guys is a bit harder as there are sooo many good 'blues' guitarists around now. But as you know your rock stuff I'd go and look at Walter Trout, Joe Bonamassa, Robin Trower, Rory Gallagher and Robben Ford (jazzed tinged too!). Technically you'd probably be able to lick all the guys but they put all the old licks in a heavier and more modern context.

No one could ever cover all angles as it's a huge topic but it's nice to see a player wanting to expand into another musical spectrum - feel free to pm me as I could pap on about blues all day

Good luck!!!
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Old 03-24-2008, 09:20 AM
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Re: jazz and blues: need advice


really appreciate that thanks!

any other recommendation from you guys?? (even if these will keep me busy for quite some time I believe)
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Old 03-24-2008, 03:26 PM
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Re: jazz and blues: need advice


since you're coming from rock, I suggest looking into some 60s blues:
Jimi Hendrix - Hear my Train'a Comin'
@Woodstock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0Qo7DOHPD0
Acoustic 12string: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCQBbgb_Lvo
or anything from Hendrix' "Blues" album

Cream - Crossroads Blues (a Robert Johnson cover btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkm9OiYvmPc
the original, set to photos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd60nI4sa9A&NR=1
check out all of Robert Johnsons work (30 odd tracks)

Gary Moore: anything from the album "Blues for Greeny"
This particular photography video uses track11 "Looking for Somebody" as background music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMNxexqProk
or the originals by Peter Green himself.

John Mayall's Bluesbreakers (ft Eric Clapton) - Double Crossing Time
Note Peter Green also played for the Bluesbreakers ("The Supernatural" etc.) and was the original guitarist for Fleetwood Mac (when they were still a blues band)
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Old 03-24-2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: jazz and blues: need advice


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hello,

I know next to 0 on blues and jazz guitarists and i'd like to build myself a repertoire in these 2 styles. (quite different than the usual rock i deliver to my neighbors! )

is it possible for some of you who are into these styles to give me the "all time classics" please: artists and song?

like:

jazz:
- kid charlemagne (larry carlton) with steely dan
- a pair of kings (same)
- room 335 (same)


thanks!
I love Larry, and if I had a dollar for everytime I've played Room 335 I could buy a Ferarri , but this isn't really jazz. This is early LA pop/fusion. If you want jazz guitar, and you want standards, Joe Pass recorded a 4 volume set called "Virtuoso". Check out those disks, and you'll get jazz guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n29xt...eature=related
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