Kirk Hammett good guitarist or hiding behind the wah - Page 4

dannymills · #46 07-12-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ibanezcollector

Anyway has kirk went downhill and is now hiding behind his wah or is he still a good guitarist?

This question is inherently flawed as you made the fatal assumtion that Kirk was once a good guitarist.

dannymills · #47 07-12-2006, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by guitarsalad14

To me kirk just plays bad pentatonic licks with a wah goin 80 mph. Btw, who intonates his guitars, Osama Bin Laden?

Hit the nail on the head.

C.Thep · #48 07-12-2006, 02:37 PM

wow, after seeing a few videos, i realized he indeed does suck. I wish I could take back my vote.

Davey · #49 07-12-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by C.Thep

wow, after seeing a few videos, i realized he indeed does suck. I wish I could take back my vote.

lol, I was thinking the same thing actually about the "Perfect 5" thing. The guy is more of a 2

Lenny_2nd · #50 07-12-2006, 08:14 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=CQnxnHwAa...ch=live%20****

I'm starting to feel old. Was it really that long ago?

Anyway, Yes. Hammet need to practice.

leppermessiah · #51 07-12-2006, 09:13 PM

ok, ok. The guys playing sucks, he uses too much wah blah blah blah. But he has had an enourmous influence on so many lead guitarists that i know.

BUT, how many people here, (I'm talking to the 30'ish crowd here)used to pick up their crappy first guitar, crank up 'puppets' and pretend they WERE hammet? I may be alone in this, or maybe even a little strange, but me and my mates so wanted to be metallica when we were just starting out in our band (back in the late '80's) that we would all just mosh along to puppets or '...and justice' wishing we could one day be that good.Then we discovered Pantera, Metallica released the black album and that honeymoon period was over.

Now i know the question was about his talent, and i will say that i don't think he is nearly as bad as everyone seems to be saying. And he is a **** load better than mustaine. At least he did on occassion attempt to escape from the pentatonic box at the 12th fret.

JJEMMER777 · #52 07-12-2006, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantofels

Now the upsetting thing is when i saw them live about 3 months ago the quality was even worse than this right here. It completely ruined what i thought about the band. Massive sound issues and sloppy playing on kirks part. Just unpleasent. Completely outclassed by most of there opening acts.

my 2 cents.

So they are basically the same live as they've always been

I've seen them back in the hayday - Justice Concert. Slop! Then with Guns and Roses in a stadium. SLOP to the MAX! G&R blew them away, but that's prolly coz axl was busy doing heroine back stage so it was basically all Instumental

Then I saw the Black concert - sloppier yet! I could never bring myself to see them live again

But I do have to say even after all these negative coments that they and Kirk were a pretty big inspiration to me in the day. Maiden was far and away much more to me though.

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Originally Posted by leppermessiah

BUT, how many people here, (I'm talking to the 30'ish crowd here)used to pick up their crappy first guitar, crank up 'puppets' and pretend they WERE hammet?

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't one of them

ibanezcollector · #53 07-12-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

I'd be lying if I said I wasn't one of them

x2 Even though I started the Hate Kirk Campaign LOL I was rocking out with metallica back then as well..

nickcoumbe · #54 07-17-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JJEMMER777

Couldn't of said it better myself

Hmmm....I thought it was Maiden

Or maybe that's just me

Dude, no-one was supposed to notice that

dex · #55 07-17-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by leppermessiah

BUT, how many people here, (I'm talking to the 30'ish crowd here)used to pick up their crappy first guitar, crank up 'puppets' and pretend they WERE hammet?

I'm also guilty of this but in my defence back in the mid/late 80's I couldn't play (not much has changed) and I didn't know how little Kirk is involved in Metallica's music.

Now that I can play a little better (but more importantly have paid attention to people like Marty Friedman, Dimebag, Glen Tipton, Dave Murray, Dan Spitz, Alez Skolnick and people like Paul Gilbert, Steve, Joe and even the mighty Ed himself) and know for a fact that Kirk's involvement in the first 5 albums was minimal I know better than to keep glorifying him.

Don't get me wrong, had you asked me about James I'd say that he is a genius. James Hetfield is the most important guitarist/composer we've had in the past 20 years and he brough on a movement of angry metal that's being copied to this very day.
James is THE DADDY of metal and he would have gone as far as he did with any other 3 members in Metallica.

Just for the record Dave Mustaine is 10 times better than Kirk and 50 times better if you consider composition skills.

With all that being said, I think that Kirk is an OK guitarist and considering he's been playing guitar for a living for close to 24 years now he ought to be quite good.
What I'm saying is - he's not as good as:
a) Most people claim he is
b) As he should be after being in Metallica for 24 years.

ilia

p.s. I really urge you to watch a little documentary called "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica" and you'll clearly see what I'm talking about...

isida.d · #56 07-17-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom Gilroy

Right well, I think he's absolutely crap. He's boring, repetitive and predicatable, and technically unimpressive. James is better than Kirk, Dave is better than James, Marty is better than Dave. And then it ends, because I can't think of any metal players better than Friedman.

Alex Skolnick?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yKKT90iiO...al%20by%20fire

ibanezcollector · #57 07-17-2006, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by isida.d

Alex Skolnick?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yKKT90iiO...al%20by%20fire

to bad they didnt show a single sec of that solo.. Its like the camera man had a thing for the singer.

I mean jesus they guys playing a solo, show the guitarist.

isida.d · #58 07-17-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ibanezcollector

to bad they didnt show a single sec of that solo.. Its like the camera man had a thing for the singer.

I mean jesus they guys playing a solo, show the guitarist.

That wasnt really the best choice of a song either but oh well.

Not nessesarily saying that alex is better than marty, but i think alex is pretty awesome too.

sniperfrommars1 · #59 07-17-2006, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibanez249

Without a question I'd put Mustaine over Hammett any day of the week.

Try playing the main riff to Train of Consequence and you'll see what I mean

Disposable heroes destroys train of consequences ' which isnt actually that difficult to play anyways.

leppermessiah · #60 07-18-2006, 02:08 AM

Alex skolnick rocks, i was a huge fan of Testament back in the '80's.
I also picked up Marty Friedmans new album, last night, the SMAP cover had me giggling, i sing that song at Karaoke. So far so good.

I can comprehensively state that they both kick Hammet AND Mustaines asses, but i still like 'em both at times.