Whitesnake Live in the Still of the Night

[RCB]

Well, I guess a lot of people have already seen this DVD. I just wanted to share some opinions:

Overall, its a great DVD with very good line up and a great performance. I would ve thought that Reb Beach was going to be the lead guitarrist, but it turned out that the other guy (of whom I never heard before) played most of the solos. His style is something like "Zakk Wylde meets John Sykes" without being as unique or good as any of them, even though he is a pretty good player and he definately gets the job done.

After watching the whole DVD it actually made sense that he played most of the solos, because his style just fits better in Whitesnake. Reb Beach is too unique and identifiable, and I guess that would ve detracted from the intention of recreating the clessic Whitesnake feel and sound.

Reb does play a couple of solos, and he also does a good job in the band.

BUt as I said, they all do. And, beleive it or not, Coverdale is as good as he ever was.

I highly recommend this DVD to any fan of the genre.

[TongueShredder]

If I am not mistaken, the "other guy" is Doug Aldrich. He used to play for Dio and I saw Dio's concert on DVD, this guy is really awesome. It seems that Doug Aldrich can produced the exact replica of Vivien Campbell's solo (sound and note wise) in Holy Diver, Dont Talk To Strangers, Rainbow in the Dark, and the rest. IMHO, he is way above Reb Beach. I've seen Reb Beach played for Dokken in concert, I have to say that I dont like the sound of his playing. Maybe its just me. All credit to Doug Aldrich though

[RCB]

Originally Posted by TongueShredder

If I am not mistaken, the "other guy" is Doug Aldrich. He used to play for Dio and I saw Dio's concert on DVD, this guy is really awesome. It seems that Doug Aldrich can produced the exact replica of Vivien Campbell's solo (sound and note wise) in Holy Diver, Dont Talk To Strangers, Rainbow in the Dark, and the rest. IMHO, he is way above Reb Beach. I've seen Reb Beach played for Dokken in concert, I have to say that I dont like the sound of his playing. Maybe its just me. All credit to Doug Aldrich though

As I said, he gets the job done very well. But even though he is a good guitar player, he sounds like the next guy, and Reb doesnt. You can easily identify Rebs playing in any band. May be if you listen to the first winger CD (winger/winger) or their 3rd CD (winger/pull) you ll better appreciate him as a guitar player.

As a guitar player, Id take Reb Beach over Doug Aldrich (reb Beach rythm guitar playing is just amazing), but for this particular gig, I think they made the right call with Doug Aldrich.

Something to be noted though, the songs that were recorded by Vai, definatly suffered from his absense.

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

The CD/DVD are awesome I really loved it a lot, I thought the performance was
extraordinary everybody was really tight. Now after my review let me fill you in a couple details about Whitesnake, for the most part they have always been a great 2 guitarslinger band except when John Sykes was touring with them in
85 because earlier he had played with Micky Moody and even Bernie Marsden, then David drafted in Adrian Vandenberg from his solo project and Sykes quit/got fired and then Vivian Campbell was brought in now I remember that those 2 would split the solos right down to half and half and each one would have their own solo spot, then when Campbell left he was replaced by Steve Vai and again in the live situation Vandenberg/Vai would split solos maybe 40/60 and each one still had their own solo spot. I'm with you RCB as far as Reb Beach is concerned I think he is too good a guitar player to just be relegated to play rhythm, I noticed the dynamic of the twin guitar attack changed radically from earlier Whitesnake duos because Reb is not afforded the chance to play a 2nd solo on most songs after the original and also because HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A SOLO SPOT FOR HIM!!! how uncool is that for such a guitar player of the stature of Reb Beach to be honest I can't see why he is so happy in that kind of gig but well who knows maybe they have good chemestry or something.
Now on the other hand let me fill you in some details about Doug Aldrige,
He is phenomenal guitar player he has been around for a while already however you might have not heard of him because he was in lesser known bands in the 80's and early 90's, he used to be a member of a band called "LION" in the 80's (No connection whatsoever to White Lion" then he went onto a more heavy band called "Bad moon Rising" and after a couple of albums the band broke up and he went onto recording solo projects and became a session player or gun for hire rumor has it that when Craig Goldy left Dio in
the middle of the recording of Killing the Dragon Doug was auditioned for the job (being that RJD was a big influence on Doug he already knew the material
that's the reason why he could play Vivian campbell's gig to the note) so after jamming with the band he got the job to finish the record and was also hired to tour with the band and that's when the DVD live in NY was recorded
and if you haven't watched it I highly recommend it!!! then after this high profile gig David Coverdale approached him about joining a reformed version of Whitesnake and since his style is more Hard Rock/Blues than Heavy Dungeony Metal he jumped on the offer right away making room for Craig Goldy to come back into the Dio fold where he belongs (he is quite awesome too but that's another story) So there you have it that's Doug Aldrige for you in a nut shell
hope this wasn't too long and boring guys "Olie's HM history 101"

[velocity]

doug aldridge also did the hurricane record "slave to the thrill"

[fettouhi]

Originally Posted by RCB

Something to be noted though, the songs that were recorded by Vai, definatly suffered from his absense.

Just goes to show copying Vai ain't that easy .

Regards

André

[RCB]

Originally Posted by fettouhi

Just goes to show copying Vai ain't that easy .

Regards

André

Its not that hard either, specially what he did on Slip of the Tongue. The fact is that, neither Reb nor Doug seemed interested in nailing his style, or may be they just couldnt. But there are a ton of guitar players out there that can play what he recorded with whitesnake. BTW, its by far my favourite whitesnake CD, and I love what steve played in there.

But, given that Slip of the Tongue is just one of the many CDs Whitesnake produced, I think this line up is a very accurate representation of the whitesnake "spirit" as a whole.

If you havent bought this DVD yet.... just go for it!

[sanitarium]

It feels like your all being very negitive towards Doug Aldrich, I saw him play with Dio and it was fantastic. To say he sounds like the next guys is an insult. When you are actually standing in front of him playing it's amazing when he lights up the fret board. I've seen the Whitesnake DVD and I should think if Beach had wanted a "solo" he could have had one. I got my ticket sitting here for May 30th at Hammersmith where i'll be up the front so i'll give you a first hand opinon then.

[TongueShredder]

Not to discredit Reb Beach, this is just my 2cents opinion. If Reb Beach were to play a Dokken concert, atleast he should give Dokken's fans those George Lynch's chops, execution and melodious lead attacks. Reb Beach was totally "on a world of his own". His own style, his own sound and totally NOT George Lynch and certainly DIDN'T SOUND DOKKEN. Where is the signature Dokken sound? These concerts are supposed to bring the fans back to the good ol' dokken era and they certainly did not.

[RCB]

Originally Posted by TongueShredder

Not to discredit Reb Beach, this is just my 2cents opinion. If Reb Beach were to play a Dokken concert, atleast he should give Dokken's fans those George Lynch's chops, execution and melodious lead attacks. Reb Beach was totally "on a world of his own". His own style, his own sound and totally NOT George Lynch and certainly DIDN'T SOUND DOKKEN. Where is the signature Dokken sound? These concerts are supposed to bring the fans back to the good ol' dokken era and they certainly did not.

I completely agree with you. Although I never cared ofr Geroge Lynchs playing, thats what Dokken fans were expecting. For this same reason I think that It was the right call to make Doug Aldrich the main "lead guitar" of the show.

As i said Reb has a very unique aproach to guitar playing, and thats what puts him as step above as a guitarrist IMHO. But at the same time, this people do not buy the ticket or the DVD to see Reb Beach or Winger, they expect to see Whitesnake, and Doug does a better job recreating that sound and style. Reb, sounds like Reb no matter where he is playing. As a matter of fact he restrained (or was restrained) a lot in order to play the songs exactly as they were without any rythm arrangements from his part.

Andy Timmons would ve fit very well there too.

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

Originally Posted by sanitarium

It feels like your all being very negitive towards Doug Aldrich, I saw him play with Dio and it was fantastic. To say he sounds like the next guys is an insult. When you are actually standing in front of him playing it's amazing when he lights up the fret board. I've seen the Whitesnake DVD and I should think if Beach had wanted a "solo" he could have had one. I got my ticket sitting here for May 30th at Hammersmith where i'll be up the front so i'll give you a first hand opinon then.

Do not include me in that bunch pal, as I said in my review Doug Aldrich is a phenomenal player,after Vivian Campbell the only competent replacement was
Craig Goldy but when he left after Dream evil none of the axeman RJD hired afterwards were able to do the gig right none of those guys could nail the spirit or the solos as well as Viv or Craig but then when Doug came in on board it was like man this guy can really nail the sound, gosh at times he even sounded better than Campbell when recreating Dio vintage solos note for note, and I like that he is doing sort of the same thing in Whitesnake his leads and solos are very similar to the originals and he can definately nail that Sykes' sound really well.

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

Originally Posted by TongueShredder

Not to discredit Reb Beach, this is just my 2cents opinion. If Reb Beach were to play a Dokken concert, atleast he should give Dokken's fans those George Lynch's chops, execution and melodious lead attacks. Reb Beach was totally "on a world of his own". His own style, his own sound and totally NOT George Lynch and certainly DIDN'T SOUND DOKKEN. Where is the signature Dokken sound? These concerts are supposed to bring the fans back to the good ol' dokken era and they certainly did not.

Can you explain to me what is the Dokken sound supposed to be???
I'm interested to know where Reb didn't supposedly delivered the goods in
Dokken? I have been a fan since early in the 80's and I know their music very well, gosh Lynch's style makes up a big part of my playing I was in a tribute band and for a while all I played was Lynch licks so I can tell you with all certainty that I know how Lynch should sound and Dokken so I don't know where you get off with your remarks I bet you never even went to live show
to see dokken when Reb was in otherwise you wouldn't be saying that "those concert are supposed to bring the fans back to the good ol' dokken era and they certainly did not" all I saw when i went to the shows were hardcore dokken fans and they just wouldn't accept some guy doing his own thing
because we all keep George in high regard in spite of the garbage he is playing nowadays.
I'm curious to know how you can utter things like he didn't give the fans
chops execution and melodious lead attack, I'm just wondering if you are deaf and blind or you just don't know the music very well and some buddy of yours told you the stuff you are saying here in this thread, Reb could play those solos note for note The hunter Kiss of death in to the fire etc...he definitely
satisfied the fans because he didn't go in there and played whatever he wanted for the solos he did the original solos George did in the studio and that showed a lot of respect for George and to the fans as far as his sound he is REB BEACH not GEORGE LYNCH so that's why the sound is different
simply put different players different rigs different guitars why would REB want to copy him down to his rig that would be stupid, I totally disagree with
what you say pal REB BEACH was the best replacement that Dokken could have ever hopped to find but since Don is ans ass well nobody sticks around long enough, so next time before you bash a player back it up with facts otherwise just state that it's just your opinion and no harm is done.

[TongueShredder]

Originally Posted by OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S

Can you explain to me what is the Dokken sound supposed to be???
I'm interested to know where Reb didn't supposedly delivered the goods in
Dokken? I have been a fan since early in the 80's and I know their music very well, gosh Lynch's style makes up a big part of my playing I was in a tribute band and for a while all I played was Lynch licks so I can tell you with all certainty that I know how Lynch should sound and Dokken so I don't know where you get off with your remarks I bet you never even went to live show
to see dokken when Reb was in otherwise you wouldn't be saying that "those concert are supposed to bring the fans back to the good ol' dokken era and they certainly did not" all I saw when i went to the shows were hardcore dokken fans and they just wouldn't accept some guy doing his own thing
because we all keep George in high regard in spite of the garbage he is playing nowadays.
I'm curious to know how you can utter things like he didn't give the fans
chops execution and melodious lead attack, I'm just wondering if you are deaf and blind or you just don't know the music very well and some buddy of yours told you the stuff you are saying here in this thread, Reb could play those solos note for note The hunter Kiss of death in to the fire etc...he definitely
satisfied the fans because he didn't go in there and played whatever he wanted for the solos he did the original solos George did in the studio and that showed a lot of respect for George and to the fans as far as his sound he is REB BEACH not GEORGE LYNCH so that's why the sound is different
simply put different players different rigs different guitars why would REB want to copy him down to his rig that would be stupid, I totally disagree with
what you say pal REB BEACH was the best replacement that Dokken could have ever hopped to find but since Don is ans ass well nobody sticks around long enough, so next time before you bash a player back it up with facts otherwise just state that it's just your opinion and no harm is done.

OK I am going to ask you one simple question. Can you differentiate between Steve Vai's playing and Geroge Lynch's? Or perhaps Jeff Beck and Jimi Hendrix? Obviously, there are differences in their playing right. Now, if Jimi
Hendrix would have been alive and you ask him to play Dokken's songs, his intepretation of lead solo in dokken songs will be totally different from that of Lynch. If you cannot differentiate this, I dont know what to say. Yes, I did not see Dokken's concert live cause I watched it on DVD, but as a loyal Dokken fan since the 80's, in my opinion(dont know about the rest...did I mention "IMHO"), let just say it is not my cup of tea. Like they say, different people have different perceptions about many things. What may be good to you, may not be good to me. That was why I did mentioned the word (IMHO - In my honest opinion). You may find Reb Beach great in that video, its your prerogative, your choice, its a free world. I am not going to accuse you of being anything, cause I respect your opinion. But this is what I perceived as I have been following Dokken for far too long. Regards

[shred4Him]

I have that video. I thought Beach was great. Don was awful. He should never sing live!!!!

Doug Aldrich is a great guitarist and so is Reb. It is a shame that Reb isn't featured as much, but his style isn't really Whitesnake. Then again, John Sykes changed the Whitesnake sound all by himself. For a guy who was there only long enough to do one tour, and then write and record one album, (he was fired, along with the rest of the band and the producer before he could actually finish the recording. His guitar playing is not on "Is This Love") John Sykes seems to define the Whitesnake sound.

Until Reb and Doug are involved in the writing of a Whitesnake CD I am not going to be too hard on either. I am never hard on a guitarist for not being a perfect copy of someone else. If they come out with a crappy CD, then they are fair game for all abuse. Either way, I still like John Sykes more than either of them. The guy can sing, write and play like few can.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvOse4Jfukg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT0-iNH94Ew

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

Originally Posted by TongueShredder

OK I am going to ask you one simple question. Can you differentiate between Steve Vai's playing and Geroge Lynch's? Or perhaps Jeff Beck and Jimi Hendrix? Obviously, there are differences in their playing right. Now, if Jimi
Hendrix would have been alive and you ask him to play Dokken's songs, his intepretation of lead solo in dokken songs will be totally different from that of Lynch. If you cannot differentiate this, I dont know what to say. Yes, I did not see Dokken's concert live cause I watched it on DVD, but as a loyal Dokken fan since the 80's, in my opinion(dont know about the rest...did I mention "IMHO"), let just say it is not my cup of tea. Like they say, different people have different perceptions about many things. What may be good to you, may not be good to me. That was why I did mentioned the word (IMHO - In my honest opinion). You may find Reb Beach great in that video, its your prerogative, your choice, its a free world. I am not going to accuse you of being anything, cause I respect your opinion. But this is what I perceived as I have been following Dokken for far too long. Regards

And I respect yours my friend is just that I can't understand why you think that way and the analogy about Hendrix doesn't make much sense either
Reb played the solos note for note that George played in the studio so what
is wrong with his interpretation? he didn't do his own thing he played George
save a few little Reb licks but he pretty much stuck to the original solos and
I think he did a great job specially as I said seeing Dokken live with Reb twice
+the DVD. you may not like Reb beach or his sound but he is a great player
and he did a great job in Dokken all you need to do is check in the Dokken forum and you will find that most fans embraced Reb and Erase the slate.
But as you said it's you humble opinion and if you want to think that way
fine I respect it, take care...