again.. terrible situation here..

[spkenn5]

hey guys this is a continuation of this thread

hey guys, as you can see, i am trying to sell my pgm, then i advertise my pgm everywhere as possible, so i went to recycler and have 2 guys that was interested but have this different method, i've never had this method before. i wonder if you ever have any experience with this.

this is the copy of the emails..

Originally Posted by GUY1

Hello,
Good to hear from you.,Don't bother about the shipping ,I will handle that myself.I'm definitely ok with the price .But you will have to do me a favor.I'm currently not in the state, i'm in UK on a business trips.My Client will send you a Money order of $3000, then you cash the payment from the cashing outlet or your bank and you remove your $950 for the ( GUITER ).The remaining amount will be send to my shipper who will come for the pick up at your location by nextweek.I hope you are ok with these arrangement.Also, you remove $50 for your running around and any expenses you make, like the charges from the cashing outlet and the charges to wire the balance through western union/Moneygram to my shipper.Let me know if you are ok with these arrangement so that the payment will be send to your location as soon as possible.Give me your full name and address .And your phone number, Keep other buyers off.Hope to hear from you soon.

it's an odd way..

and here's another one..

Originally Posted by GUY2

hello,thanks for your response.am cool with your offer and i will be making shippment for the guitar to the UK.i have contacted a shipper who will come over to inspect and pick up the guitar.mail me the best price
you can offer with full name,address and valid phone number to send the money orders for the payment of the item and shippment to you.u will make payment to the shipper for him to come for pick up.

and this is after i asked him why does it have to go this way

"hello,thanks for your mail.i have a reliable shipper here in the UK and he will be shipping some other items for me with the guitar am about to buy.their service is express delivery with insurance.i have made some transactions with them.kindly mail me you details to proceed with payment.

Regards"


they are both came from different emails.

so what should i do? i gave my information on the first guy, but hey in case i did a mistake, should i give my infomartion to the 2nd guy as well?

thanks

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one of those guys actually sent me a money gram, total of 3 $810s.. i dont know what should i do? i am going to send back the money for sure.. because i am asking for a $950 for a pgm

this is what he said

Originally Posted by GUY

HI me
I JUST GOT YOUR EMAIL THAT THE ( GUITER ) IS GONE BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR ME THE PAYMENT IS ALREADY WITH YOU.

HOWEVER, I WILL WANT YOU TO DO ME A FAVOR BY CASHING THE MONEY ORDER WHICH IS ALREADY IN YOUR NAME AND YOU TAKE $400 FROM IT AND SEND THE REMAINING FUNDS VIA WESTERN UNION TO MY SHIPPER IN CARE OF MY OTHER ENGINES .
I REALLY NEED YOUR HELP BECAUSE MY ITEMS ARE STRANDED FOR SOME WEEKS NOW AND MY CLIENT ,WHO IS OWING ME IS PLAYING SOME KIND OF GAMES I DON'T LIKE.
THIS IS MY SHIPPER'S INFO BELOW;

MR XXXXXXXXXX
ADDRESS:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx
XXXXXXXXXX UNITED KINGDOM .
EMAIL--BAMKADABOOM @ ICANTTELL. COM


AFTER YOU HAVE SENT THE MONEY FOR SHIPMENT THROUGH WESTERN UNION TRANSFER , I WILL REQUIRE THE FOLLOWING DETAILS FROM YOU.:

1.SENDERS NAME AND ADDRESS (your full name and address used in wiring the funds)
2.RECEIVER'S NAME( MICHEAL BALDE)
3.MTCN ( MONEY TRANSFER CONTROL NUMBER )
4.EXACT AMOUNT SENT..........
I WILL BE EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM YOU ASAP.

CHEERS

NAME

thanks

[Rich]

My only question is how do you attract so many con men? None of them are real, including whatever payment you already think you have.

[surfdog777]

Dude, time to close the store. Keep the PGM's and move to Cleveland.

[crevis]

The're using every trick in the book, when selling something, make YOUR rules and stick to them no matter what, if they cant pay by your rules, then "sorry my item, my rules or nothing".

State the payment method you want them to pay with, shipping method etc, if they start a transaction and you have allready stated the rules of the transaction then you have every right to cancel the transaction (and you should) if they cant adhere to those rules.

[spkenn5]

i did say that, but the guy still sent me the money

so the option i have now is send back the money? that will cost me some $$$, i'll just burn the money grams if i have to..

i will do so immediately

[bpd111]

The checks / moneygrams are fake.

Don't bother returning them. Just don't cash them.

[surfdog777]

Dude,
You have no money.
The check or whatever that guy sent you is a fake. It's not a real account. You can deposit it into your bank account, and it'll go in..........for 1 day. Then the check will bounce, your bank is going to debit back your account, then the con men have your bank account info. Nothing good (for you) can come of this.
DANGER!! WILL ROBINSON!!
WARNING!!
WARNING!!
WARNING!!

[spkenn5]

thanks, so it is decided, i am not returning the w/e its called, ill just let it freeze here..

thanks for the advice guys

[IbanezGirl]

spkenn5, you are about to be seriously ripped off. Don't do a damn thing, otherwise you'll end up with no guitar and no money

spkenn5, a word of advice. If i were you, i would really really re-consider where you put your guitars up for sale. By putting them up for sale everywhere, you are asking for trouble. Be more selective on where you put them, otherwise this type of thing will just be a re-occurring problem for you.

[Moibanez]

I would like to rip these fu@#ers adams apples out of their throats. everytime I bid on something on evilbay I get 10 second chance offers from these scamming pric*s. mail them back and tell them to go f**k their mothers. Thats what i do after talking to them and leading them on. I'm sorry if this post is too graphic, I just hate to see hard working honest people being ripped off.

[TAorama]

Do NOT send them ANY money. Do NOT deposit the checks. The checks are either counterfeit or altered originals. If you deposit the checks and then withdraw the money, the bank will hold you accountable for the funds. After the bank finds out the checks are bogus, they will come after you for the money, whether they had previously cleared the checks or not. It's a scam. Either throw the checks in the shredder or turn them over to your local FBI or USSS office, then tell the scammers to piss off and that you've contacted the cops. Don't be scared if they threaten you. Not much chance of them hopping a plane from Nigeria (where they're most likeley really from) and coming after you.

[OLIE_ROCKS_THE_80'S]

Oldest tricks in the book and you were falling for them?!? be careful!!!

[spkenn5]

phew.. thanks guys..

i hope this BS will stop soon.

so ppl wont get ripped like this..

[T.B.A.]

Originally Posted by TAorama

Either throw the checks in the shredder or turn them over to your local FBI or USSS office, then tell the scammers to piss off and that you've contacted the cops. Don't be scared if they threaten you. Not much chance of them hopping a plane from Nigeria (where they're most likeley really from) and coming after you.

As above
Stick it to 'em! :-)

[Batchimp RG]

I would report it to the authorities regardless, no use complaining about cons if you're not gonna do something about them.