Christopher Woods? - Page 16

Davey · #**226** 01-06-2007, 05:32 PM

That sounds like one a guy around here had done. I think the guy was called 'Stolen Guitar' though I could be wrong. But it looked pretty damn cool if I remember correctly.

Make sure to post some pics when it's done

Martallica · #**227** 01-06-2007, 05:39 PM

Love n that colour J.arledge ,And yeah Chris is good to deal with alright nice guy.

waylay00 · #**228** 01-07-2007, 07:04 PM

I plan to buy a neck from him. Cannot wait

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fettouhi · #**229** 01-08-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by j.arledge

i just wanted to say that i bought a jem body from him off his damged page and recived it , the repair was really good but i got a good deal on it .

here is what i looks like painted up

http://www.deanguitars.com/userpics/lib6/IM000922.JPG

i am very happy with it , and chris is a great guy . I was surprised at how prompt he was in replying to my e-mails .

Looking very cool!

Regards

ChristopherWoods · #**230** 01-13-2007, 02:18 AM

Hello, I am going to address this comment by petersfieldpete here since I can not seem to post a reply to it in the registration area where it was originally posted. Here is the original comment:

petersfieldpete
International Buyers/Christopher Woods
Ordered a UV777 and 7vwh Custom Matching Pair with Quilt tops in March 2005 from Christopher Woods. Listed the specs March 05, and sent him the money, and a Uv777 in Oct 2004 for reference as he hadn't built a seven string before. Subsequently we had a problem!
Basically he cut the topwood thick instead of thin and eventually hit flaws as it was an 'end of log' piece. Buzzwood had told us there was enough to do the job, but warned us to be economical as you could see flaws slightly on the back of the lumbar. I've seen work with tops at the Yamaha factory, and we've always seen them cut 2-3 mms deep. Aside from that you can always check once they are cut, but he just went ahead and stuck them on the body anyway. Subsequently we never got the guitars or the parts I sent him, or our money, $2700 back, so this year we're taking him to court. And as I'm in the UK we have to fly over to California to sort this out so it's a mess!
This is just an indication of what can happen when two people are on different sides of the planet and one ****s up!
He also sent me an email about a Japanese guy who ordered a Superman guitar (he's on this site) who paid Chris $3500 plus all the rediculous import taxes and duties in Japan for a guitar he'd built for $200. That's 1500% mark up and he'd taking the p*** out of the guy. It's just not nice!
This is what can and did happen so BEWARE if you are on the otherside of the world and you are dealing with him. He has made some beautiful guitars and made some people very happy, but stuff happens! Pete UK

ChristopherWoods · #**231** 01-13-2007, 02:21 AM

I will address this statement so that anyone reading can see the facts and decide for themselves what the problem is here. To the owners of Jemsite, I hope that these statements are within the rules of what is appropriate to post here. But I do also believe that this info can be helpful to someone who is contemplating an international or even a local order for a guitar or any kind of custom built item.

The total time in process on this order for 2 guitars was just over 8 months. Order started on 03-04-05 and was cancelled on 11-29-05. Pete’s complaints are that order was taking too long and that the quality of the guitar tops are not adequate. After the order was started, I had some email communications with Pete about the woods to be used for the guitar tops. We had discussed several sources for getting this lumber and looked at dozens of photos from various sources including eB**. What eventually happened was that Peter chose, purchased, and had shipped to me, the wood that he liked from an eB** auction. The wood arrived on 5-20-05. Almost 3 months eaten up in wood selection. Although I did prepare body blanks, neck blanks, and ordered materials during this time. I had done as much as I could without having the top woods to work with.

Other things that ate up time include: Pete sending payments to the wrong Paypal address / Cancelled the order for the first time on 8-12-05 and then wants to go ahead with it a week later / Got side tracked by trying to place orders for about half a dozen other guitars / Changes his mind on details such as color and type of hardware almost every week / First wanted maple neck (which were built), then wanted maple-wenge necks (blanks built) then wanted maple-bubinga necks (blanks built). Etc... Etc... Etc... The list of changes from the original details is a long one.

Then Pete decides that he doesn’t like the lumber that he picked out. It was a piece big enough to make a guitar top by approximately .5” thick. I book matched it open to make a .25” top on each side. This is pretty standard don’t really know how you think I cut it too thick. I did glue it on to the body blanks and then sent a photo of the results. This is when it all went sour as Pete didn’t like the results and claimed that there were flaws in the wood. This is when he cancelled the order. No questions asked. (Will any flaws be routed away with pickups...) (Will the paint job requested mask out any flaws...) (Can we get a new piece to replace these tops...) All of these would be good questions but he didn’t ask anything, just cancelled.

ChristopherWoods · #**232** 01-13-2007, 02:23 AM

Can it get any weirder.. Yes it can! After Pete cancelled the order, he refused to have any direct communication with me and got his brother Jonathan to take up this role. Jonathan and I have been attempting to come to a resolution on this order. The problems are that they have refused to accept the return of any hardware or money unless I agree to their terms. Their terms are that they want me to pay bank interest on the money and for loss of value on the hardware. Basically demanding hundreds if not a couple thousand dollars over what I received. When the threats of a lawsuit started I met with an attorney for advice. I feel comfortable inside the law with my position on this.

The bottom line is that Pete picked the wood and then decided that he didn’t like it. And his constant change of mind about the wood, hardware, etc.. Is what caused delays in this case.

Regarding the Superman guitar to Japan. Again you have your facts wrong. I have never sold a Superman guitar to anyone outside of the U.S. I did sell one for $3,000 on eB**. And yes the profits were good. There are plenty of guitars out there selling at well over $3,000. I can find auctions all day long at $50,000 +. Do you think that these guitars cost more then $500 to build? So does that make any seller who makes a good profit a bad person? Obviously, the person who bought my Superman guitar thought it was worth the $ or he wouldn’t have bought it in the first place and then left me good feedback when he got it.

I’ll take criticism when I deserve it. I’ll admit that I am wrong when I am. But I’ll stand up for myself and call you out when needed. And by the way, I have every email regarding this matter to back up my claims.

Koss · #**233** 01-13-2007, 02:36 AM

I find it hilarious when people complain about what guitars sell for on e-bay. If people are willing to pay it, then let them pay it. I'm sure i've spent more money on a guitar than someone else would for the same one. But that's my choice. As they say, "It's worth what someone will pay"

Good luck with the suit, if they go through with it. I'm sure you'll be fine, from what i've read.

Looking forward to getting my guitar soon. I also look forward to seeing future guitars that you build (Especially any from Sevenstring.org members

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**Ayrton** · #**234** 01-13-2007, 03:01 AM

I have said it before, and I say again. Christopher Woods has been nothing but a great guy to deal with from day one. I paid for two bodies and received them in a couple of weeks. I wanted some minor changes and Chris went out of his way to make me happy.

I fully recommend him to anyone.

luvuvibanez · #**235** 01-13-2007, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Koss

(Especially any from Sevenstring.org members

)

+1

Brimming with anticipation

fettouhi · #**236** 01-13-2007, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherWoods

Can it get any weirder.. Yes it can! After Pete cancelled the order, he refused to have any direct communication with me and got his brother Jonathan to take up this role. Jonathan and I have been attempting to come to a resolution on this order. The problems are that they have refused to accept the return of any hardware or money unless I agree to their terms. Their terms are that they want me to pay bank interest on the money and for loss of value on the hardware. Basically demanding hundreds if not a couple thousand dollars over what I received. When the threats of a lawsuit started I met with an attorney for advice. I feel comfortable inside the law with my position on this.

This is pretty weird? You are willing to give back money and hardware, what more can they want?

Regards

André

bammbamm · #**237** 01-13-2007, 10:54 AM

They want interest... Yeesh..
Surprised they aren't trying for payment for time spent on their silliness.

chef21 · #**238** 01-13-2007, 02:47 PM

I have a neck and body to be finished soon I can't wait. Any one check out his line of guitars, very nice. the XLR8 looks pretty nice. When he gets caught up and better organized, I think he will have a very good future in the business. chef21

Martallica · #**239** 01-13-2007, 05:01 PM

Got three bodies from Chris all were well worth the money .I'm an international buyer and never had a problem ,those guys sound pretty weird .

Marty...

petersfieldpete · #**240** 01-13-2007, 05:29 PM

WITHOUT PREJUDICE) Ok, I just don't think its cool, or good business, to build a guitar for $200 and brag you sold it for $3000. It's nothing to do with profit! It's not cool also to hold someones money and gear to ransom($4735) until I pay you $700 in compensation for not finishing any of three guitars over 10 months, March to Jan o6, (and still have me bottom of the list). You knew the quilt tops for the Custom Uv777/7vwh pair were the JEWEL IN THE CROWN of our project.We are in the UK, you owe us a duty of care as a business. The wood we bought looked good, the mockup was great, but flaws appeared when you cut the wood and you stuck it on anyway. You didn't ring or email to ask first. YOU are the Luther, the expert, we just benefit when you really get it right, and we are happy to pay for that. I've seen you've let a few people down in the past, and you do put on yourself too much. But I'd rather pay $2000 per axe for you to get it right than have all this crap. You agreed to do certain things within certain very limited timescales, it's a contract and you didn't have any other conditions of business on your site. Anyway I'm done tonight. Happy New Year Everybody X