Christopher Woods? - Page 21

petersfieldpete · #**301** 01-15-2007, 06:26 AM

I am up for Chris carefully finishing the guitars. This is not the first of our big Custom Build ****ups by a long stretch, nor will it be the last. We carry three Fernandes sus 7 strings, three UV777s, three 7vwhs and two 5 string Tremour DeLuxes normally, and three 'spot' guitars; a Custom Iceman 'Grapique', a strawberry Custom Fernandes HHH, and you'll laugh, my favourite, an early Fender Squire Custom HHH 7 strings with Blaze DM's.
I LOVE THAT AXE!!!
So time ain't a problem as long as he sticks to whatever timescale he needs, but not forever please.
Big thank you to Rich by the way!

Rich · #**302** 01-15-2007, 06:32 AM

Again, unless he agrees otherwise he has already stated that continuation is not an option. I can't speak personally here but I have also been in some deals I wish I had never started. If Chris chimes back in he is willing to continue that's on him, but I would not blame him if he just wanted resolution. Which still leaves you answerring the unanswered question.

petersfieldpete · #**303** 01-15-2007, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Chris, are you will to redo the bad top?

Pete, are you will to procede with the order based on the bad top redone?

Yes i am.

Rich · #**304** 01-15-2007, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ChristopherWoods

Am I willing to re-do the bad top. In most instances I'd say yes for sure. But in this one no. After all of the wierdness of dealing with this person, I have no doubt that if I completed a guitar for him it wouldn't be satisfactory. Do I want to spend another 3 or 4 months on a guitar and be right back in same situation? No. Bottom line is I am not comfortable dealing with him and I am sure that he feels the same. So I'll build guitars for people who want them and he should buy guitars from sources that he is comfortable with. I'd rather refund him but that seems difficult to accomplish as well.

unfortunately it is not mutual.

**jemsite** · #**305** 01-15-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by petersfieldpete

Rich, this 'venture' owes me $4735 PLUS interest @627%/month since Oct 04 when I paid to send the Uv777 for him to reference, plus flights and legal fees, plus paying to ship back my gear, including tax, vat and customs charges.
The UK lawyer was $500/hour, the usa attorney was $275/hour. I paid Chris all the money upfront, I had to pay for the topwood twice, and buy a trem from Japan which I'd already paid Chris for once, as he wouldn't get it.
The parts are redundant and i will have the aggravation of disposing of them at a loss.
You are a business man, total that lot up, then give me view on what I should do.
Thanks,
Pete

Pete, I am very close to removing your posting priviliges here unless you either take any offered refund, find a neutral mediator as Rich said or take this offline. this legal conversation is beyond silly and to be honest this vendor would be foolish to contract more work with you. You've got 48 hours to get that done or complain somehere else. Good luck.... glen

Rich · #**306** 01-15-2007, 03:13 PM

I'm trying to mediate Glen, so don't strong arm the guy. A fair settlement may or may not be what has been offered, it's not black and white, but the shades of gray need to be resolved and this matter closed so both parties can get on with their lives.

Chris, you need to address Pete again directly on if you are willing to finish this project.

ChristopherWoods · #**307** 01-15-2007, 03:40 PM

I need some time to think on that. For one thing, I have a waiting list with 6 months of work on it. This order was cancelled over a year ago. So if I did accept it where would it fit into my schedule? and what about the details of the tops etc... If I did complete the work, I'd want absolute finality on all details. I'll consider it because then the materials would get used intead of liquidated. It could be the best win / win situation. But terms have to be set and no B.S.

Rich · #**308** 01-15-2007, 04:15 PM

IMO it should be in the top 1/4 of the order so it can get finalized and put to rest. The timeline/delays was evidently part of the original complaint. I quit taking orders when I get into a 2 week backlog

Koss · #**309** 01-16-2007, 12:36 AM

IMO, I think that if both parties agree to finishing the guitar, then he should take his place on the wait list like everyone else. Sure it's an existing project, but it was canceled. I don't think my next order, or anyone elses order should have to wait because of this issue.

I say, get on the waiting list like everyone else, or accept the refund.

Nothing against Pete. I hope in the end, you're satisfied. But no cutsies

petersfieldpete · #**310** 01-16-2007, 02:17 AM

This is no longer my call. Chris and Rich will decide if this is going to get anyware on JEMSITE, and I am happy to go along with that. (WOT,NO CUTESIES!!!)

ChristopherWoods · #**311** 01-16-2007, 02:35 AM

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Actually, I have about 3 to 4 weeks worth of paid and promised orders to complete. The waiting list is basically a list of names on my website of people who want me to do work for them. I have not accepted any payments from them or promised any deadlines.

I've scheduled myself for a much lighter load this year so I could probably squeeze this in without affecting the expectations of people on that list too much. However, the guitars for Pete were pretty decked out in the details Abalone binding on the body. 3 color abalone pyramids. etc... lots of detail. I know for sure that I wouldn't be able to touch it for the next 4 weeks. With the detail on these 2 guitars, I'd want 4 months build time. Paint and cure times would be at leats 3 weeks of that. Bottom line... July would be the earliest.

That's not to say that I am all in with a yes let do it. There are plenty of other things to consider before I get there. Any word from Pete?

Rich · #**312** 01-16-2007, 02:45 AM

Pete's best option [and yours IMO] is to have this project finished. He absolutely wants this to procede but I'm sure he also wants his complaint addressed on whatever his problem is with the top. [if it's the good top I have no idea what the problem is but if it's the other it's pretty clear to me].

What exactly do you need to consider Chris?

Pete, what exactly are your complaints [specifically] with what has been done so far?

ChristopherWoods · #**313** 01-16-2007, 03:36 AM

What I need to do is look over the details of what was paid, what was supplied, what is it going to cost to get what Pete wants, and figure out where we are.

I'll have to do some looking up of those details but what we need to agree on is..

time frame to complete / money being squared up / specifications stated with no more changes / direct communication made available when necessary / we also need to agree in advance what will take place if Pete does not like the final product.