eBay cons are completely out of control ;/

Rich · #1 12-29-2003, 05:36 PM

Lately I'm getting so many of these it's just pathetic, all of them are just too good a deal, but they all have one thing in common, somehow they come as if I'm the seller of an item and I'm being asked a question [the email notice from ebay is just that]. If anybody knows how they're getting through the system I'd sure be interested, but here are some examples.

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Subject line - Question for seller -- Item #2367543723

Hello,
I have a new(Steve Vai's PROTOTYPE IBANEZ JEM 7BSB Guitar).The price is very good.If you are interested reply me asap.
I will give you more details.I must tell you from the begining that I accept WesternUnion for payment and I use FedEx or UPS for delivery.
Please reply only if you are realy interested.
I hope we can have a greate deal.
Have a nice day!
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Question from: valic_sel
Title of item: Steve Vai's PROTOTYPE IBANEZ JEM 7BSB Guitar
Seller: rlharris
Starts: Dec-19-03 19:00:00 PST
Ends: Dec-29-03 19:00:00 PST
Price: Currently $5,600.00
To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2367543723

Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com

[this guy I told to piss off and get a job because he wasn't smart enough to be a con man, but he's NOT EVEN A REGISTERED USER!!! How are they getting ebay to process these emails?!?!]

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Subject line - Question for seller -- Item #2366516826

Dear customer,
I noticed that you have a bid on the item Ibanez PGM 90th Rare Ltd ed and I would like to make you an offer.
I could offer you the same unit to buy now without the auction for only AU $1200 !
If we will have a deal I will pay the shipping fee and the insurence for the package.
I do not shipp COD and I do not use paypal.
I are looking forward to hear from you. Thank you in advance for your time,
Kind Regards.
If you are interested pleas contact me on my personal e-mail!
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Question from: alberto_222
Title of item: Ibanez PGM 90th Rare Ltd ed
Seller: rlharris
Starts: 14-Dec-03 01:23:53 GMT
Ends: 24-Dec-03 01:23:53 GMT
Price: Currently AU $1,625.00
To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=2366516826

Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.co.uk

[I played along and requested pics, which he sent one of a PG30JB, what a putz. When I told him I wouldn't give him $10 for it I got a C&P reply I'd post but all you'd see is **** *** ***** *** ..... ]

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Subject line - Question for seller -- Item #2369217201

Dear sir,

I have a Fender Stratocaster Guitar from 1961 and i want to sell it. I have noticed that your might be interested in antique guitars . It plays great.It's condition is great.The dimensions are:39"/12 ;1/2; 1 3/4".The price is 2500 USD.

If you are interested in my offer please email me back!

Regards!!

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Question from: lasobadreq
Title of item: 1961 Fender Stratocaster Guitar
Seller: rlharris
Starts: Dec-26-03 21:47:09 PST
Ends: Jan-05-04 21:47:09 PST
Price: Currently $4,850.00
To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2369217201

Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com

[I told this guy to send it to me and I'd express him a money order after I'd recieved it. Of course he balked, but, he'd do it if I sent him $600!! Putz!]

They all have one thing in common, 0 feedback, newly registered, and they all come as if a question for the seller of said auction, which of course I'm not, very curious how they're doing it. I've gotten lots of these over the years but these are from 1 week so it's worth noting their attempts are increasing in frequency. Watch you asses!

BeastofLove · #2 12-29-2003, 08:09 PM

Geez! What list are you on!?

And how can you get off it?
Although in my recent PGM auction, I got a bunch of emails from new users with 0 feedbacks asking me to ship to "friends" in Indonesia and the like.

But your case is totally whacked out.

-Ben

Rich · #3 12-29-2003, 10:46 PM

This is just from bidding on stuff [usually to throw it on my watch page and keep room in my items watched section] and I'm really not bidding on THAT much stuff. This is why I figured a few of you guys would be recieving the same cons and hopefully wouldn't be gullible enough to get took! ;/

gkelm · #4 12-30-2003, 01:25 AM

I've received a couple of those...I noticed on one that the guy actually created yahoo email account (magisterrex1995@yahoo.com) to resemble an actual seller's account (magisterrex)...the email was copied to look like ebay content. Not only did they try to deceive me, they are leaching off someone else's reputation. This crud really keeps you on your toes.

Greg

kennydoe · #5 12-30-2003, 01:45 AM

The ironic thing is that whoever is doing this, obviously has no mastery of the English Language, even though they're trying to come across like they do....yet...the grammar and spelling don't look that much different than some that I've seen from US citizens....even some Jemsiters who shall remain nameless.

~K

Rich · #6 12-30-2003, 01:57 AM

If you check their "registry" you'll see they're Canada, the UK, and France, but these aren't just imitations of ebay emails, that's what's bothering me.

Properties

Received: from radio.sjc.ebay.com (radio.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.61.29])
by mx44.sjc.ebay.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id hBTCemMF008557
for <rich@ibanezrules.com>; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:40:48 -0800

They're coming "from" ebay.

babahi · #7 12-30-2003, 02:37 AM

I've gotten similar offers for laptops and other stuff. When the first email arrived, I quickly went to "My Ebay" to see if my account had been hacked into and holding bogus auctions. Made me wonder too, about how they got that going...

Jeroenn · #8 12-30-2003, 07:57 AM

Rich,
If you try to get a e-mail correspondence going, so that you have an email comming from one of the Yahoo addresses, could you forward it to me with complete headers?
I've pinpointed the location of the dope that faked the 777LNG prototype twice, and I'm curious (but willing to bet a bit) that this is the same jerk.

Rich · #9 12-30-2003, 08:10 AM

Here's one that was Yahoo

Return-path: <cameraba@yahoo.com>
Envelope-to: rich@ibanezrules.com
Delivery-date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:43:31 -0500
Received: from [216.155.196.106] (helo=web61104.mail.yahoo.com)
by cj.fxsonet.com with smtp (Exim 4.24)
id 1Aafsx-0003K5-N1
for rich@ibanezrules.com; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 13:43:31 -0500
Message-ID: <20031228184331.41807.qmail@web61104.mail.yahoo .com>
Received: from [80.96.50.147] by web61104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:43:31 PST
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 10:43:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Dealer One <cameraba@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Question for seller -- Item #2369217201
To: Rich <rich@ibanezrules.com>
In-Reply-To: <12cf01c3cd53$29598c60$6401a8c0@desktop>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-673918554-1072637011=:41629"

--0-673918554-1072637011=:41629
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hy,

I cant just send it.
Can you pay a part of it.Can you pay for the shipping ,insurece and others.
Like 600-650 USD?

Thanks

************************************************** ********

Here's another address but this is the guy I told piss off so just ebay headers

Return-path: <valic_sel@yahoo.com>
Envelope-to: rich@ibanezrules.com
Delivery-date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:40:51 -0500
Received: from [66.135.197.28] (helo=mx44.sjc.ebay.com)
by cj.fxsonet.com with esmtp (Exim 4.24)
id 1AawhW-0005S8-S0
for rich@ibanezrules.com; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 07:40:50 -0500
Received: from radio.sjc.ebay.com (radio.sjc.ebay.com [10.6.61.29])
by mx44.sjc.ebay.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with SMTP id hBTCemMF008557
for <rich@ibanezrules.com>; Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:40:48 -0800
Message-Id: <200312291240.hBTCemMF008557@mx44.sjc.ebay.c om>
To: rich@ibanezrules.com
From: valic_sel@yahoo.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2367543723
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 04:40:48 PST

Jeroenn · #10 12-30-2003, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich

Received: from [80.96.50.147] by web61104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 28 Dec

Gotcha..This one is indeed comming out of Romania.

Quote:

Received: from [66.135.197.28] (helo=mx44.sjc.ebay.com)

This means they use the webform to contact you. Mail will be sent from the Ebay servers. Yahoo is descent enough to show the Ip of the client that access Yahoo webmail (see above), Ebay unfortunally isn't. Only way to get 'm is to get email correspondence going and then check for headers, but they'll resolv to Romania anyway.

EKG · #11 12-30-2003, 01:03 PM

I get about 2-3 a week for various things:
guitars
amps
coffee mug warmers
etc.

Since it is so few, I just delete the email.

Rich · #12 12-30-2003, 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeroenn

This means they use the webform to contact you. Mail will be sent from the Ebay servers. Yahoo is descent enough to show the Ip of the client that access Yahoo webmail (see above), Ebay unfortunally isn't. Only way to get 'm is to get email correspondence going and then check for headers, but they'll resolv to Romania anyway.

If they were just contacting me through the webform I'd get a -

Question from eBay Member

not a -

Question for seller -- Item #2367543723

and have me listed as the seller, when of course I'm not.

the.godfather · #13 12-30-2003, 02:05 PM

You can tell some of those blokes are foreign. Whether it be Romanian, Indonesian or Kosovan or whatever....
The language is just so poor, you can tell they cant speak proper english. I must admit, Ebay is getting worse and worse. Luckily for us in the UK it isnt as bad. Surely something can be done.
Gary - The.Godfather

Jeroenn · #14 12-30-2003, 02:19 PM

Matter of fact, those guys from the 777lng had perfect language skills.
We had a nice chat on Yahoo. (after the doofus e-mail bombed me & mm of vai.com)

Rich;
I'm gonna check that one out a bit further. Pleasecould you email me your Ebay username? I think I might now how they pull it off, but I want to make sure.

And does anyone here have a current auction online, which I can abuse for testing purposes? The worst thing that could happen is that you get a e-mail as above in your inbox. Thanks.

kennydoe · #15 12-30-2003, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the.godfather

... I must admit, Ebay is getting worse and worse. Luckily for us in the UK it isnt as bad. Surely something can be done.
Gary - The.Godfather

Funny you should say that...Ebay stock hit an all-time high just yesterday :P

~K