FRAUD/VERIFICATION MASTER TOPIC: verify a guitar, seller, fakes, etc.

[pbiava]

I'd like to see what the experts think about this one.
Of course i'm looking to buy a JEM and came across this one:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/msg/1065358582.html

he's selling it for $950, which looks like a phenomenal deal, but it doesnt make sense...

it looks like its a repost of a previous attempted craigslist sale, previously for $1,000. Price is low enough to entice bids on the messed up guitar (to at least HAVE a JEM), but not if the thing is fake.. Plus, its pretty obvious that if you do any legitimate research on these guys that you can get more than than in an auction....

can a pro help out?

[Lord.Jasio]

Hey, I was wondering if someone could take a look at this **** Item: 380113940334

He obviously does not know that these guitars were only made from 91 to 94, but the serial number shown starts with 91 so i'm guessing it would be a 1991 model.

The guys got good feedback though, so I don't know.. I really do not know how to identify if these are fake or real, so any help would be appreciated.

[porous]

Howdy all, does anyone know if this looks like a true 1976 ibanez L.P. headstock? no serial number on the back... grover tuners.

Thanx for any input
peace

[Angra1]

I was looking at Jem related items on ****bay and saw this 300309117366. Is it fake? It seems fake to me, but I am still learning about all the different Jem models and features.

[Jack Secret]

No, that's a real one. It was only available about two years.

[Jack Secret]

If anyone really needs a laugh, go to www.ioffer.com and search Ibanez. It's a Chibanez paradise!!!

Here's an example -->

[Rich]

It's not all original. The guard is changed, the plate is off another JEM, etc.

[Jack Secret]

Good call, Rich. Absolutely correct. I missed the different pickguard.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jack Secret

If anyone really needs a laugh, go to www.ioffer.com and search Ibanez. It's a Chibanez paradise!!!

Here's an example -->

I just wrote legal to get me registered there. There's no way that's going to continue.

[Jack Secret]

On the pics of some of them, they only say 'JEM'. I cannot possibly fathom they ran out of Jem Jr. necks.

[Softmod]

Recently come across these on "you know where"

Ibanez PGM30 JB Paul Gilbert PGM 30 301 401 jem rg 300
NO RESERVE! Super rare.Hard to find

Item Number - : 280338098773

AND

1991 Ibanez Jem77bfp Steive Vai jem bfp fp rg guitar
NO RESERVE! Super rare.Hard to find

Item Number - : 280338097203

The same seller is selling both "1993penny1993penny1993penny" has 13 feedback, 3 of them being a sale (1 is an eric clapton strat, the other 2 are unconfirmed) and a few purchases majority of which are ebooks, several of them being "How to receive 100 feedback in a few days"

Seems pretty suspicious, maybe you guys can confirm. Sorry if this post doesn't adhere to the rules, I did read them. If not, please make any necessary changes, thanks.

[Rich]

If it's so hard to find any scratches or marks, why is there a chip?

http://i.****img.com/09/!BRKgGPgCGk~$(KGrHgoH-CMEjlLl)s+(BJ8mg56IBQ~~_3.JPG

replace the ****'s with you know what

[Jack Secret]

More ioffer fun!



What colors are the green and orange ones supposed to copy? There's some floral's that are just too painful to show.

[pilotfish]

Didn't this guy just rip off some people here with this neck and body?

190317880595

VS

Swirl Jem Body + Neck FS

[MattyG]

yeah man that was me
the more I look at that thread the more stupid I feel for buying!
I'm old enough to know better LOL
$400 down the drain.