FRAUD/VERIFICATION MASTER TOPIC: verify a guitar, seller, fakes, etc.

[MattyG]

Originally Posted by pilotfish

Didn't this guy just rip off some people here with this neck and body?

190317880595

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Swirl Jem Body + Neck FS

So after a lot of work I managed to get my money back through paypal!!!
I'm super happy with the outcome and thanks to everyone who helped me!

Just a quick note - the guy selling this gear on **** is genuine so far as I can see and I do not believe he is the same guy who scammed me.

[Arnie Guitar]

Sooo, this is news to me.
I wasn't aware of the fake JEM issue.
I have decided to sell my guitar, and received a question asking me if it was an authentic Ibanez? I thought the guy was being a smart alec, until I came here and now I see why he asked.

The auction ends in a day and a half, and I want to be sure I'm selling the real deal. I bought it used in Sep of '03 off of the 'Bay, and according to the internet, the serial number F0010XXX says it was made in the Fujigen factory.

Am I selling a real one? Are there key things to look for?



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[Rudy]

I'm interested in this:
Real or fake?
http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/msg/1349775061.html
Any thing to look for to differentiate real from fake would be appreciated.

[jemmaniac]

real deal...

[nato101010]

150399354754 on .ca

Not sure, the knobs are wrong, and it doesn't say anywhere that they were replaced. Looks real though. Maybe just a real good copy.

[BM2009]

Hey I'm looking to aquire an authentic used Ibanez Jem 7V WH but it's hard to weed out the fakes other than from the placement of the monkey grip. I have two separate guitars in question on the 3bay and there listing numbers are 370311451566 and 140370522688 . Thanks for the help it's much appreciated.

B.

[Hikey Mikey]

What is this?

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/msg/1543279447.html

Guy says he's been on Jemsite to research his guitar. I don't know enough to identify this but my gut tells me this is fishy. I've never seen a mark like that on an Ibanez neck. Saved the text below.



"AS long as you see this listing the guitar is still for sale,Thanks -Ibanez swirl guitar with dated F315322 serial number wizard neck (1993) Fujen Plant swirl monkey grip body with floyd rose trem dimarzio and humbuckers ,this guitar plays itself practically /According the markings inside of neck actually came from pa plant first,It has been setup by a guitar luthier and is a awsome work axe and so cool looking exspecially under the lights,Not much ya cant play on this thing all the way the to the end of the last fret and then sum with the up or down whammy style action/You wont find many guitars that will sound or play as good as this one,come check it out and play it yourself ,comes with ibanez hard case and trem bar/thanks trades considered maybe/Located 20 min from wilson///NEW INFORMATION STATES THE WALRJ-24 MARKING ON NECK STAES FROM JEMSITE THIS INFORMATION--WALRJ-T24 what RG neck is this -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Doing a yahoo search says it is a American made model likely made in the Bensalem PA shop and was a RG750 or up neck. WALRJ-T24 = Wizard(Profile) Angled(Headstock) Locking(Nut) Rosewood(Fretboard) Jumbo(Frets)- Teeth(Inlays, every neck I've seen with the T has the Sharkteeth) 24(Number of frets)Also doing a jemsite question and answer i was informed that in the early 90s you could go to the pa shop and buy neck body pickups etc and put together a guitar that looked and performed as a jem and this is probaly one of those guitars.As you will see the neck has a fuji serial number but no japan stamping under serial which means it never went to the Fuji plant/ "

[Rich]

There was no such thing as a Bensalem plant. Japanese parts assembled and finished in America. The swirl is definitely not original, and the monkey grip was no doubt added before it was swirled.