Music outlet shop

[Ant1981]

Does anyone have any dealings with music outlet shop on e-bay?

They seem to have some Ibanez stuff, but they dont show the headstock and the trems dont seem to be Ibanez, fakes possibly?

Have a look at items such as 7336982834 , 7312625431 and see what you think guys.

[Davey]

7312625431 looks to be a MIJ RG450, but he's dreaming if he thinks he can pull £380 out of someone for a '450.

Look at his feedback, he "RUNS A TIGHT BIZ" and "RECEIVE 200E-MAILS A DAY-CANT ANSWER ALL RIGHT AWAY."

Crazy considering the guy was leaving him positive feedback "Fast delivery. As described. No problems. Thank you. AAAA****"

[Ant1981]

He wants £175 for an Ibanez neck too, crazy. I could do with one for my RG770 which no longer has a neck (dont ask), but i aint paying that.

[Davey]

It seems he just has them up for the sake of it and if someone buys it, they buy it.

Also seems like there is next to zero customer service.

[Ant1981]

Yea, you're right there. The thing with people like that, when they get so many feedbacks, they don't care. Look at the ones that say they didnt recieve thier item, several people says that, and music outlet replied too all of them implying they wanted a freebie. Quite rude really rather than just solving it.

[varador]

I found this on another forum:

"Re: music-outlet-shop on ****. I was suspicious after the guy (who is listed as Frank Schauer, Oranjehofstr.29 50769 Cologne, Germany, e-mail: music-outlet@gmx.de Tel.: +49 221/2788734) did not return any phone calls or emails. I spoke to some friends in Cologne who own music stores, and they tell me it's the same guy that used to have a store called "Mega Music", which changed names every year or so. This guy has the reputation of being seriously dodgy, to the point of possible criminal activities. He was known some years ago for shipping containerloads of guitars from the US in various states and piecing together not-quite-correct items at way too high of prices. Also, the neighborhood in which this address is located is a great place to get mugged and NOT a part of town in which any reputable business would operate. Buyer beware...he often has upwards of a THOUSAND guitars on **** at any given time, and should you ever have an issue the chance of your even communicating with him to resolve it are nil."

If you want my opinion - steer clear of this guy.

[Jaden]

awful seller... ive tried to deal with them but it takes ages for them to reply and their stuff is always over priced. when they do reply they clearly do not know what they are talking about.

[Davey]

Originally Posted by varador

I found this on another forum:

"Re: music-outlet-shop on ****. I was suspicious after the guy (who is listed as Frank Schauer, Oranjehofstr.29 50769 Cologne, Germany, e-mail: music-outlet@gmx.de Tel.: +49 221/2788734) did not return any phone calls or emails. I spoke to some friends in Cologne who own music stores, and they tell me it's the same guy that used to have a store called "Mega Music", which changed names every year or so. This guy has the reputation of being seriously dodgy, to the point of possible criminal activities. He was known some years ago for shipping containerloads of guitars from the US in various states and piecing together not-quite-correct items at way too high of prices. Also, the neighborhood in which this address is located is a great place to get mugged and NOT a part of town in which any reputable business would operate. Buyer beware...he often has upwards of a THOUSAND guitars on **** at any given time, and should you ever have an issue the chance of your even communicating with him to resolve it are nil."

If you want my opinion - steer clear of this guy.

WOW, I just clocked this thread from a while back. Christ that is dodgy!

[britman]

music-outlet-shop

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I was about to buy a 25 year old yellow Telecaster from music-outlet-shop and read a post on this site about them while researching thiss guy Frank out.

This is my communication with him...I'VE BEEN IN **** E B A YFOR SOMETIME NOW AND CAN USUALLY SMELL A RAT. This guy Frank Schauer seems like a German RAT.

Hello music-outlet-shop,
I dont have enough money in my Paypal account as yet. I want to buy this
Tele. I will not bid on it unless you agree. Can I also make a payment by
a credit card? DO you have any other methods of accepting payment in
addition to Paypal. I am happy to pay by paypal but it will take some days to top
Paypal up?
let me know ASAP.
regards
Millshake
On Sun, 11/16/08, Frank Schauer wrote:
From: Frank Schauer music-outlet
Subject: Re: Frage zum Artikel FENDER TELECASTER USA --- 25 YEARS OLD
To:
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 11:03 AM
Hello,
you could arrange a transfer into our bank account.
Best regards,
Frank,
ok - - No Prob..I will place a deposit of $100 on the guitar by **** and pay the balance by bank transfer...on Wednesday morning is that ok>???
please provide the details
regards
Millshake- Original-Nachricht
Datum: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:29:22 -0700 (GMT)
Von: "**** Member: millshake"
An:
Betreff: Frage zum Artikel FENDER TELECASTER USA --- 25 YEARS OLD
I will send the $100 to this ..... (your mail account now).
Please confirm this is acceptable.
These are my details
My address was given
regards
Millshake
On Sun, 11/16/08, Frank Schauer wrote:
From: Frank Schauer
Subject: payment
To: [
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 2:00 PM
Hello Mikey,
a down payment is not necesaary, I will hold the guitar for a week. The total is 750 Euros plus 25 Euros shipping = 900 Euros. Pleaase take the below bank details to your bank
and make sure,that all transfer costs are covered / NO share(should cost you
about 20 quid). Here are our bank details:

Frank Schauer
Grethenstrasse 9
50739 Köln
Stadtsparkasse Köln(bank's name)
Hahnenstr.57
50667 Köln account no: ******* 762 sort code : ******01 98 > IBAN: DE ************ 37 62 > International swift code: COLS DE 33xxx The total with shipping is 900 Euros.
Thank you for the business!
Frank

Please confirm the amount again...#
Below you mention 750 Euros+ 25Euros = 900Eu ???
Please could you also advise why this link ..............
now shows 40 years old £3750 for the same guitar>?
regards
ok thanks.

please send me the photo of the guitar please and also if you would be kind enough to answer my previouos email. regarding the what appears to be the same guitar, 40 eyars old, £3750 on what is now the same link as the £750 one I want to buy.

Rgds
Here we have the SAME picture of guitar as I wanted to buy here is his answer
On Sun, 11/16/08, Frank Schauer wrote:
From: Frank Schauer
Subject: Re: payment
To:
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 2:25 PM
770.00 GBP = 899.189 EUR United Kingdom Pounds Euro
1 GBP = 1.16778 EUR 1 EUR = 0.856327 GBP

per exchange rate company named.
Will hold it for a week.
Best regards,
Frank
Millshake On Sun, 11/16/08, Frank Schauer <music-> wrote:
From: Frank Schauer
Subject:
To:
Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 2:34 PM
same finish -- different guitar.

Do you want it or not?
Best regards,
Frank
ME - sure I want it.... Just send me a photo please of the guitr I am buying ..many thanks.
Regards
Here’s the Punch Line….
I already deleted the pic, - -[If he had the real phtoo of the resal guitar he would have sent it to me without hesitation !!!!!!!!]……he continues…..
guitar is in your storage,
won't get there until wednesdasy or thursday.
Best regards,
Frank

I will NOT be buying anything from this dealer….Spread the word…It amazes me how people like this can get away with what appears top be DAY LIGHT ROBBERY.

I have an original email from **** reminding me that the item is nearing end of auction at a BUY IT NOW of £750 which shows the same photos that he has on new link same guitar photo now 40 years old and £3750..Also the same details are in the description as that of the 25 year old Tele I was going to buy. Work that out..**** should delete this *******.
here is the same guitar now at £3750 and 40 years old....he simply changed the price and age...and kept the advert remaining (except for the date of the new 40 yo tele) for the last few hours check it out.

check his 40 year old telecaster out....it was £750 and 25 years old:-(

[britman]

The Latest degrading reply from the professional guitar sales deprtmetn in
Germany - music-outlet-shop-

I think this guy is American not German..> I could be wrong.

His message to me and mine below that.

LISTEN UP................Monday, November 17, 2008 4:58 AM
From: "Frank Schauer" <music-outlet>Add sender to Contacts To: mikeyengland2003@

Hello NO-BRAINER,

if I read anything MORE from you ANYWHERE,

this will be a FIRST CLASS court case.........

WATCH YOUR FILTHY STINKING ROTTEN MOUTH.....

or my lawyer will sue you BIG TIME for SLANDER............

UNDERSTOOD?

ALL YOUR E-MAILS ARE ON FILE ....

better get HELP from a GOOD DOCTOR..........I AM SERIOUS !

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 01:27:25 -0800 (PST)
> Von: Mikey <mikeyengland2003>
> An: Frank Schauer <music-outlet>
> Betreff: **** Report

>
> I have forwarded this email to **** in addition to other from you
> as proof that the two different items were advertised under one item number.
>
> I find your comment below unprofessional and disgraceful.
> Any professional seller would understand my concerns and I am not a time
> waster, I merely wished to establish the legitimacy of the sale and product.
>
> I find your offensive remarks disgusting and will be posting on as many
> forums as possible the kind of disgusting person you appear to be, but then I
> should expect as much.
>
> Millshake

[The Euphor]

He he... Way to go! Get his account closed.

[bloodandtears]

just found this.. was having similar thoughts.. cheers guys

[SGplayer]

He's been a seller for years. Way over priced.