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Old 11-05-2007, 02:39 PM
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Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


I need to vent. Perhaps I'm lucky to have gone this long without having a real problem with evilbay. Until recently.

The reason I want to post my story here is: a) I really need to vent, b) the items sold by this vendor are guitar accessories, so quite likely there are members here that may wish to purchase from him.

Here goes.

I found a vendor recently who was selling a few items I was interested in. The items were:
- a pack of 20 JS signature guitar picks
- a JS signature strap ("Up In Flames" is the one I was specifically after)
- a digital metronome (that makes a "tock" sound instead of an electronic beep)

The prices seemed very good, but shipping was a little on the pricey side and the shipping method and combined shipping were a bit unclear.

So I sent my first message to the vendor on Oct 7th asking for more specifics on shipping to Canada, what methods he offered and what the total combined shipping would be. (the reason I asked is often times vendors will refine the shipping amount with an "actual" once they know your specific location and exact items you're buying). This message was ignored.

I sent a second message on Oct. 10th. That one was ignored as well. That evening I decided to go on blind faith and purchased the items (they were "buy it now" listings). I hoped that now that I purchased from the guy, that I'd get his attention now and get some questions cleared up.

I get the some auto-generated emails from **** now. I get some "please pay..." emails for each item that said "don't forget to take advantage of combined shipping.". And three "invoice" emails from ****, and when you clicked the "pay now" link for each item it said "combined shipping not available for this item". So now what??

It was also unclear exactly how much to deduct. It just said "save up to $1.00 on shipping when you buy additional items". So do I save $1 on each of the three items, $1 on just one item, or on the two additional items. (and btw, it struck me from the very beginning that this was pretty much a joke of a combined shipping "deal"... $1??)

So I sent another message on Oct 12th, asking how the combined shipping worked and if I could please get a combined invoice. Ignored. And again on Oct 14th. Ignored.

I messaged again on Oct. 15th and also clicked the "request total" link for each of the items. Finally that night I get a message simply stating "here is a new invoice".

So... the amount invoiced for shipping was $16.85 US. Ouch. I should've expected as much based on the seller's vague policy. But I also didn't know how large or bulky the packaging was for those items. I KNEW that was expensive, but at this point its too late. I committed to buying the items. So that night I paypalled the total amount.

On Oct. 18th I get an auto-email stating my items will ship out the next day.

On Nov. 1st the items arrive. The picks, the strap and the metronome are all in a single bubble-envelope with a printed shipping label (USPS) stating $3.76 US total paid.

I open the envelope and inspect the items. The metronome is fine (put batteries in and tried it), the strap is fine. The pack of JS picks, 2 packs actually (1 pack of 10 black, 1 pack of 10 white) are all medium gauge! Ack! My stupidity again I guess. I mistakenly thought the packs were a mix of gauges. I really wanted heavy gauge. I went back and looked at the ad and the pick thickness/gauge was not specified anywhere. Damn. Well, I guess I can take some blame for not asking the question ahead of time... (but would that message attempt have been ignored as well? Hmm.).

Ok, feedback time. Understandably I was furious about the discrepancy between the shipping charged to me and the actual the guy paid. But I was also annoyed with the pick issue. Anyway, I didn't have the heart to give this guy "negative" feedback, so I settled on NEUTRAL feedback. I gave him neutral on the three items stating the "items were ok, but communication very poor and combined shipping was a rip off".

Well the next morning (Nov 2nd) I log on and find a very nasty email from the seller basically saying "Don't ever buy from us again" and "go shop in your own country!". Wow... Then I check the feedback, and to my shock the b@stard gave me a NEGATIVE rating on the items! His only stated complaint was that I "complain too much.". WTH??

A negative feedback in return for a neutral, and his only beef is that I complained?? How dare I have any complaints?

I sent the auction site an email requesting a look at the feedbacks to see if there was anything under the "abuse of feedback" policy, but unfortunately there is nothing they can do.

I am just steamed now. I have the first negative feedback blemish on my record and I don't think I deserve it. What do you guys think of my story? Do I have reason to be pissed?

And, just to complete the story. The power seller in question is "powerhousemusical", based in Iowa.

Based on my experience I most certainly won't ever attempt to buy from this person/business again. And I could not recommend them to others.

Last edited by Inzane; 11-05-2007 at 02:49 PM.
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Old 11-05-2007, 02:47 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


Man that stinks!! I only have one negative feedback too and it wasn't even for something that I bought for myself, it was something I was buying for a friend of mine! She wanted this particular CD and I bought it but when it arrived, it was in just a plain envelope with no bubble wrap or nothing! And it was completely smashed to hell! I emailed him several times to ask him how we can resolve this issue and he never responded. I finally had to file a claim with E-bay to get my money back and then the guy had the nerve to leave me a negative feedback! I felt horrible, but I just left a reply to his negatiive feedback stating that I tried to resolve the issue but he wasn't responsive and for sellers to see all my other feedback which is all postitive. It sucks to get that first negative, but the world is full of all kinds of people and I guess it's just bound to happen at some point. That stinks though what he did with the shipping. I hate that when they pay like a buck for shipping and charge you 10.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".



I think it's BS that the bay can't do anything about it. They can. It's just their policy not to.

I recently had a transaction that didn't go well, but we worked it out. I bought a XM radio without the dock or power supply, so I was unable to use it or charge the battery. This one was used and I knew this was going to take a while so I bought a different one and it had everything. Took over a month to get a refund back. He gave me positive feedback, but I didn't have a chance to give him any. It ended well, but was a huge pain in the butt.

I've also had the same problem as you....ask questions with no response. Even though it's something that I want I look elsewhere. If they don't respond in a reasonable amount of time, then that's the way they practice business. And if that's the way it's going to be when you ask a question, the rest of the transaction isn't going to be any better.

Sorry you got ripped though. It is an abuse of feedback though. I'd submit a claim and continue to do so until they take a look at it.

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Old 11-05-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


Ok, a few questions here............

1. Why didn't you just get the picks from GC online? Each box is 3-4 bucks for 10 picks.

2. How good of a deal was it to get the up in flames strap that you couldn't order it from GC brand new? the most that strap goes for is $19.99USD.

3. The metronome thing is just a matter of preference. Again, it must've been an incredible deal...

The Bay is very cut and dry and if you have questions, you should've asked as many questions as possible to iron out issues, instead of finding out you got the wrong items. As far as the shipping goes, well, that's on them....

Better luck next time.

Jimmy
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:24 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


You should have never bought anything from anybody that ignores your questions.

Now go leave them negative feedback, you can leave feedback up to 3 times for the same auction number. And of course reply to the feedback he left you to explain it.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:30 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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Ok, a few questions here............

1. Why didn't you just get the picks from GC online? Each box is 3-4 bucks for 10 picks.

2. How good of a deal was it to get the up in flames strap that you couldn't order it from GC brand new? the most that strap goes for is $19.99USD.

3. The metronome thing is just a matter of preference. Again, it must've been an incredible deal...

The Bay is very cut and dry and if you have questions, you should've asked as many questions as possible to iron out issues, instead of finding out you got the wrong items. As far as the shipping goes, well, that's on them....

Better luck next time.

Jimmy
Good questions. However, I am in Canada, and Guitar Center will not ship to Canada. I knew that previously from enquiring about RG20th guitars. But after you mentioned it, wrt these accessories, I just double-checked GC's shipping policy and they do not ship internationally. But I will know next time to double check all the popular online stores before resorting to the bay. Perhaps I'll have better luck with another company.

I would even prefer buying from a fellow Jemsite member than some anonymous bay seller. So I'll have to explore that option in the future as well.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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You should have never bought anything from anybody that ignores your questions.
Yup. That was admittedly dumb of me to ignore my spidey sense (tingling) at the time.

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Now go leave them negative feedback, you can leave feedback up to 3 times for the same auction number. And of course reply to the feedback he left you to explain it.
I've done the latter already, attempting to explain myself. But are you saying I can "upgrade" the feedback I gave already from neutral to negative? I didn't think that was possible.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:34 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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Good questions. However, I am in Canada, and Guitar Center will not ship to Canada. I knew that previously from enquiring about RG20th guitars. But after you mentioned it, wrt these accessories, I just double-checked GC's shipping policy and they do not ship internationally. But I will know next time to double check all the popular online stores before resorting to the bay. Perhaps I'll have better luck with another company.

I would even prefer buying from a fellow Jemsite member than some anonymous bay seller. So I'll have to explore that option in the future as well.
I hope you don't feel too badly though. E-bay has been a live and learn experience for me as well. Because of my experiences buying off there I know more what to consider before bidding on something. Is the shipping clearly stated? Is it reasonable? Do they reply to my questions promptly and courteously? Have they been selling for awhile? Do they have good feedback? Those are all things I take into account before bidding because I have learned from my mistakes when I haven't. E-bay is still a good thing all considered, you just have to be street smart to some extent. I'm sorry this happened to you though.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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, you can leave feedback up to 3 times for the same auction number. .
Positive, negative, neutral. I never said anything about upgrading, I said go leave a negative now.
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Old 11-05-2007, 04:53 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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Positive, negative, neutral. I never said anything about upgrading, I said go leave a negative now.
I just checked, and can't see a link or button anywhere to leave feedback again for these items. As I mentioned before, I left feedback first (neutral) for the three items. I don't see any way to re-submit feedback or overwrite it on the three items.

Unless I'm missing something completely obvious...
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


Go to the feedback forum.
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Old 11-05-2007, 06:09 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


$16.85US you say...... the last guitar I had shipped to Australia cost $450US in postage - the seller felt so guilty he tipped in $50 ..........
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:05 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


It could possibly just be that the seller doesn't like Canadians. As sad as it is, I've had trouble dealing with people from the US (seemingly from mid-central only) and the reason is they are hostile towards Canadians. (Seems the same in your case)
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Old 11-11-2007, 01:06 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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It could possibly just be that the seller doesn't like Canadians. As sad as it is, I've had trouble dealing with people from the US (seemingly from mid-central only) and the reason is they are hostile towards Canadians. (Seems the same in your case)
I am from USA and I don't hate Canadians. I would happily cross the streat to urniate on one if he/she were on fire.
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Old 11-11-2007, 02:27 PM
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Re: Unpleasant buying experience with a "power seller".


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It could possibly just be that the seller doesn't like Canadians. As sad as it is, I've had trouble dealing with people from the US (seemingly from mid-central only) and the reason is they are hostile towards Canadians. (Seems the same in your case)
Seriously?

Why hostility toward Canadians, of all people?
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