Warning BUYERS on ****!!!

[Groovy Coovy]

WARNING!!!
I have been scammed out of $925.... watch out for these auctions, any anything similar!!!

http://cgi.****.com/ws/****ISAPI.dll...category=33043

http://cgi.****.com/ws/****ISAPI.dll...category=47072

http://cgi.****.com/ws/****ISAPI.dll...category=33043

Someone is hacking into accounts to portray themselves as a quality seller using their feedback!!!

[darren wilson]

What exactly are you saying? Those three auctions do not look related, other than the fact that two of them used the same template. What evidence is there that someone is hacking into accounts and forging feedback?

This should be posted in the Vendors, Auction & Reseller Talk forum, not in the Classifieds.

[jemsite]

sorry to hear

the $10 S/H should be a HUGE red flag, in addition to the no reserve. these frauds should be obvious when they don't show actual photos and have a "here's an offer too good to be true" mentality.

moved to vendor area.

[Groovy Coovy]

Sorry... Delete if you have to. I was just trying to save others from the same crap I am going through!!! Believe me, or not.

thanks jemsite!

[jemsite]

i added a link here from the stick (now "annnouncement") **** topic already being discussed. hopefully people will read and think before impuse bidding ... glen

[Rich]

Can you share more details? Like how you know you've been cooked, etc?

[Rich]

I thought the layout looked familiar.

2570882281

email transcript, read from bottom up of course. Notice how they disapeared when pressed for proof of address.



yup, disapeared.

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i guess since i haven't heard back from you you're not willing to verify
your address?

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no reply

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what good is your dl #? social security # is one thing but your dl is
pretty worthles [but what do i know, mabe a criminal could have a use
for it?]
it's just the addres verification i need
rlharris to check my **** feedback
www.ibanezrules.com is my buisness

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Hello dear buyer

Look I closed the auction yet. Our payment address is no a PO Box
or other Scam or freak as you says. Should i scan my DL? How can
i be sure that you are not pass it to some one?

Best regards, Maria

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i can't verify it. i always verify all adress where i'm sending more
than $250. i will not send to mail boxes etc. or any of the other address most scammers use because of their rules of identification. i need to somehow verify your address is your address. a scan of a utility bill will suffice. drivers license, etc. there is no phone listed in your name which is how i normally [easily] verify
Rich Harris
XXXXXXX
Sewell, N.J. USA 08080

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Hello dear buyer,
Ok im going to close the auction now for you. You not nessesary to be a high bidder i just closeit up and do the transaction with you.

Whats wrong with address?

Best regards, Maria

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in other words you'd like me to become high bidder so you can close to sell to highest bidder? I cannot verify your address, you have no phone listing in new haven.

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Hello dear buyer,
Close an auction now on you on high bid?

Payment address is:

Maria Ioffe
105 Ramsdell str A9
New Haven,CT,06515

Also we need your full address and name to ship the
guitar to.

Best regards, Maria

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i'm your buyer then. need your info to send the money
order.

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Hello dear buyer,

We have bought a guitar in ************ shop.
We understand you but do not worry about it. A guitar
is really new and its a good thats all we can say. Really good.

Best regards, Maria

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if i may ask, where did this inventory come from?
i'm always suspicious when offered a new guitar [untouched in factory box] and less that dealer cost.


Hello,
Without carry case, just packed in a factory box.
We are in mini sellers group not too large.
Located in CT.

Best regards, Maria.

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case? no case?
are you a buisness or is this personal?
where are you located?

******************************

Hi,
2003 year. Absolutely new brand. $900 include shipping. Going to buy?

Best regards, Maria.

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thank you. is this a 2002? or a 2003?
what's the buy it price?

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Hello. Yes no words. Its a brand one guitar and never been used before. No one opened this box.
Best regards, Maria.

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not one word on the condition?

[Knightmeir]

...which is why I don't trust ****. no more.

[Joel Lyndgohrd]

I was actually sad to see the e-mail transcript the Rich wrote end. It was an interesting reading.

I haven't bought anything from **** in a long time, and I don't know if I ever will again...

[Groovy Coovy]

When I did not get the guitar I got sellers info from **** and have him a call. The guy whos account this was has not sold on **** for months. This Olga took his identity and sold a guitar that does not exist. I told **** about these new auctions, but has not done anything yet!!! The cops are on it now. Woopee!!!


here is my transcript from Olga aka Maria...


> Hello dear buyer,
>
> Im going to close the auction now.
>
> Our address is:
>
> Olga Schisler
> 920 South Fifth Street
> Monmouth, IL 61462
>
>
> Yes, $925.00 is the final ammount.
> Let me know with your shipping address also.
>
> What is your name on ****? ccouvillon?
>
>
> Best regards, Olga
================================================== ======
>> Yes, we have a deal. I will need the address to ship the money
> order to.
>> The money order will be for $925.00 right? I will send you the
> money ASAP!
>> This is for a brand new in box Ibanez Jem7VWH. No case I am
> sure. I will
>> get you my address with the payment. Thank You!
>> Carey
>================================================= =======

>>> Hello dear buyer,
>>>
>>> Its ok. I will close the auction now and you will be a winner.
>>> We prefer money order or a cashiers check yes. Sorry do not
> accept
>>> any personal.
>>>
>>> We will need your address and name to ship the guitar. We will
>>> ship via UPS 2nd Delivery.
>>>
>>> So we have a deal and i close auction up?
================================================== ======
>>>>> Hello dear buyer,
>>>>>
>>>>> I see. Maybe i will close auction earlie? and you be a high
>>>>> bidder. Or?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, Olga
>>>>>
>>>>>
================================================== ======

>>>>>>> Hello dear buyer,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is the way to But it now:
>>>>>>> Place a bid for $900 and we are close auction then.
>>>>>>> Let me know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards, Olga.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will pay $900.00. How do you want to set this up? Can
>>> you
>>>>>>> set it up as
>>>>>>>> Buy it now for $900 and I will grab it ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
==========================================
>>>>>>>>> Hello dear buyer,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $900 with shipping.

>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Olga.
========================================
>>>>>>>>>> What is your Buy it Now price?

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What year is this? What kind of condition?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello dear buyer,
>>>>>>>>>>> The guitar was made this year and absolutely new brand.
>>>>>>>>>>> No one opened this box before.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best regards, Olga.

[Rich]

I have no doubt the "sellers" [thieves] are one in the same, the similarity of replies just seals it. They're probably using drop address which will forward to another [probably another drop/fwd address]. That they've found a way to hack into the **** accounts of others is the scariest part to me ;/

[Scott of Actual Time]

Originally Posted by Rich

That they've found a way to hack into the **** accounts of others is the scariest part to me ;/

actually, this is the most common new tactic for scammers. they steal peoples' accounts not by hacking ****, but by sending out 'sniffer' e-mails to **** users, with fake **** graphics so it looks like a mail from ****, and it says something like "your account will be deleted if you don't type your user name and password into this e-mail to log back on."

after people type their info into the fake e-mail, it sends their data back to the scammers. they steal accounts with positive feedback to run their scams, and the true account holders like the one mentioned above have no idea it's going on under their good names. non-**** scammers also use sniffer e-mails to get people's SSN, bank account #s, Paypal ID, etc.

so never type any of your personal info into an e-mail, or a website that you're not positive is the real URL of the site you want to log on to [some of the scam sites look totally real].

[Groovy Coovy]

What peeves me off even more than being scammed $925 (which I am still hoping to get back)... is that **** does not give a rats patooty fruity!!!

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Scott of Actual Time

actually, this is the most common new tactic for scammers. they steal peoples' accounts not by hacking ****, but by sending out 'sniffer' e-mails to **** users, with fake **** graphics so it looks like a mail from ****, and it says something like "your account will be deleted if you don't type your user name and password into this e-mail to log back on."

after people type their info into the fake e-mail, it sends their data back to the scammers. they steal accounts with positive feedback to run their scams, and the true account holders like the one mentioned above have no idea it's going on under their good names. non-**** scammers also use sniffer e-mails to get people's SSN, bank account #s, Paypal ID, etc.

so never type any of your personal info into an e-mail, or a website that you're not positive is the real URL of the site you want to log on to [some of the scam sites look totally real].

I know better than to try and think at 8am.

Yup, always getting those fake mails for **** and Paypal, just got one yesterday. Simply, **** and Paypal have both sent out notices of these fake emails that try and dupe you into giving your information, and both state that they never request information through email. **** cares, but there's not a boatload they can do about it except close the auctions and suspend the accounts, unfortunately suspending a good members account because they were stupid enough to give their info to a rat.

[Groovy Coovy]

I've tried to warn **** about these new auctions... but they are still up! They need to have a better, more personal way to communicate.