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Old 07-16-2001, 05:12 PM
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A new amp ???


Hi,

I need a piece of advice, I have a Marshall JMP-1 and Marshall 8008 as an amp. I want something heavier, not more gain but just heavier ! I would be great if it could be a rack unit also !

Thanks,

Fabian
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Old 07-16-2001, 05:57 PM
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A few options.

#1 *Detune your guitar + heavier strings
#2 *Buy a seven String guitar
#3 *Buy an EQ pedal
#4 *get a set of bass speakers added to the amp

The best
#5 *Buy a Boogie
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Old 07-16-2001, 06:01 PM
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first. what kind of guitar do you have and with what pickups? what strings and tunings do you use? and what type of music do you play?
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Old 07-16-2001, 06:31 PM
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I have used a Marshall 8008 and the Marshall power amps 9005, 9100, and 9200.

I have recently got a Mesa 2.90 which I run through a Marshall 1960AV cabinet (Celestion vintage 30s) and it is excellent and as heavy as you like.

As mentioned get heavier strings, if you use 9-42 gauge switch to 11s

Get a seven string and put thicker strings on it and tune it to A.

Next turn volume up and hit strings!

hope this works

Simon
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Old 07-16-2001, 07:14 PM
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This is for getthis : I have an RG 3120( Mahogany + flammed maple top, tone zone in the bridge and a paf pro in the neck)

I want a very big rhythm sound (just like fear factory) and a very cool lead sound (petrucci in the live in japan).

Hope you'll find me the solution !!!!

Fabian
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Old 07-16-2001, 08:41 PM
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i won't be much help with petrucci as i don't listen to him but take some considerations into what gear he used and what styles also.

this is very important. *your tone has to compliment your playing style. to try to have a tone like petrucci and cazares, you have to play like they do, otherwise you most likely won't be happy with it.

this includes your band or yourself if you are just writing/recording songs. fear factory's sound and songs rely on a very tight rhythm section of drums and bass as well as dino.

his style as you know involves very low tunings(so tune down to B or A or like dino does on one or two songs drop G), fast double picking, and palm muting among other things. his tone also relies on high output humbuckers(he uses active emg-707's which is like a emg-81), high gain rectifier amps(line6 as his main and mesa boogie as backups), and marshall cabs for crunch.

alright. with the previous posts suggestions on tunings, strings and what not, try going out and borrowing a POD or mesa boogie rectifier from a friend or see if a local store will loan one to you. then hook it up to your cab(if you get a head) or your 8008(if you use the pod) and try to find a usable tone in it . use your equipment and try to use a EQ pedal or rackmount if you can to fine tune the sound. if it's not good enough, try the closest amp to the "modeled amp" on the POD if you tried it. you will then have to make decisions on if you want to replace your guitar or pickups to further get a little closer to "that sound".

if you plan on going the line6 amps route. wait until after the upcoming NAMM to buy because there are rumors that line6 is ugrading some, if not all, of their amps. they are said to be using a new type of dsp chip or something and are releasing a new amp soon.
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Old 07-17-2001, 04:13 AM
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Hi,
I need a piece of advice, I have a Marshall JMP-1 and Marshall 8008 as an amp. I want something heavier, not more gain but just heavier ! I would be great if it could be a rack unit also !
Step 1 of 1:
Get rid of the 8008. *It's a beginner's piece of rack gear, and sounds like a cardboard box. *Get a tube power stage and drive it. *I run a JMP-1 into a Mesa 50/50 power stage and it's heavy enough!


The rest of your gear sounds as if it should be able to generate the tone you want!
( though you'd need a 7-stringer to get a real Fear-Factory sound )


(Edited by MadKeithV at 3:14 am on July 17, 2001)
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